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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 6826978, member: 385063"] Have not seen results past V opens and you have KJs Satty strat basics Collision factor- other players collide knocking each other out letting us win- when this is occurring we can be very very nitty It seems that this is occurring so nitty for right now is the best action If the table dynamics change we would then change at that point as 22 bb is lots in a satty to pay the blinds --only 1 bb needed to win a seat ok V opens we are nitty what do we do with KJs OOP 1 left to act? Data on V is they will collide with others with 44 so we are not shoving here---yes that is a nitty play shoving expecting max folds-but not vs this dude Next best nitty play is to fold let this dude collide with someone else. Then call with the intention of folding unless we crush the flop but really just fold is much much better I assume you called- so the nitty play we want to make on the flop is most often going to be fold! Ok we make a pair on the flop ( this is not crushing it) and decide to make the pot as large as possible vs a player that does not like to fold and could knock out other players- or be knocked out and let us win the seat easily--- this is not nitty- this is not the best satty strat based on table dynamics We love this Villain type when we are in 3rd place here --- we love that they will collide with others- [B]not us[/B] -so we over fold everything that we cannot nitty shove preflop and let them knock out the BB or one of the shorties or themselves vs the biggest stack. We can just fold our way to a win most often-again with this table dynamic and considering you said there is a nit and another player over playing the nit do we even want to play KK if we know it will go post flop? It is very difficult to switch our brains from chip EV to table dynamics but that is how we win more satties :unsure::geek: [/QUOTE]

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