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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 6688424, member: 385063"] Ok so we are in exploit game play here so standard lines do not apply- So what data do we want to have to determine our exploit approach to this spot 1 V has a wide range to open- if you have charts or GTOWIZ do not look at MP vs UTG charts look at BTN VS CO instead - 2 V will continue post flop with a wide range which means they have more board coverage than we do 3 V is likely to continue to the river with anything that hits for them 4 V will be aggressive post flop and attack us 5 effective stacks are 67bb which is fairly deep 6 AQoff is not a great EQR hand so it will be difficult for us to get to river vs aggression this deep if we miss the flop Using this data does anything hit you right now about how you were thinking about this hand preflop? You said you would fold to a 4 bet from an aggro wide range player why? Would the 4 bets be hands that dominate you only? Would we not consider a 5 bet shove at some frequency? Ok we are folding to a 4 bet from a player very likely to 4 bet why did we use this sizing? Why let them win more by being agg preflop when we know they are agg? Vs a player that is going to be aggro post flop when we miss do we want our SPR to be lower on flop with this hand? What would be better for us in this spot-- a half pot lead of 7k or 18k- by a known aggro V on a board that they have all the nuts and draws-which we do not block very well and we have no spade redraw. As played I hope you won🤑 but it is not necessary to take this high variance line vs a player who plays wide ranges in tournaments- A good mantra to have vs wide range players is -Make the nuts and make them pay- weak hand go away Vs weak aggs A high can be the nuts but seldom is if we get all-in on the flop AQoff on that board is weak :unsure::geek: [/QUOTE]

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