$460 NL HE MTT: Spot for a Stop-n-Go?? 1st Flight of 2 Live MTT

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Turning Stone East Coast Poker Championship $100K GTD
1st Flight of 2, $460 buy-in link to structure
Dinner break has just completed and rebuys have ended.
90 players left, 30 will bag for Day 2 and be ITM
Average stack is about T80K

Level 12 T1K/T2K-BBA, 9 handed
Folds to MP who opens T4K off a T85K stack.
Folds to Hero in the BB with T28.5K after posting the T2K BBA
Hero has :8s4: :8c4:

Hero : ???

MP was new to the table about 3 lvls before dinner break. He is on his 3rd buy-in. 1st hand at the table he open shoved his T30K stack at T500/T1000. He has shown down hands like :qc4: :6c4: and :ks4: :9s4: . I've played with him before. Here is the range I'd put him on in this spot.
22+,A2s+,AT+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s
Hero has been very card dead and only played 3 hands over the last 4 levels, once limping from the BTN when there were 3 limps in front, once seeing the flop BB vs SB and once shoving to take down the blinds and one EP limper.

What are the merits of running a Stop-N-Go versus an open shove here?
Would we have more fold equity if we call the T4K and shove most all flops like non-Ace, non-King, 1 broadway cards?

Hero shoves
MP makes a crying call with :kh4: :10h4:
Flop: :7d4: :5c4: :4s4:
Turn: :10d4:
River: :2s4:
 
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I’m just going to jam here with your stack size. I don’t like getting fancy and then facing a bunch of over cards post flop. Jam and take the pot when he folds.
 
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Maybe this bothers just me, but can you drop the T's? It makes it super hard to read. I keep having to re-check what the stacks are. K is already "thousand", you don't need the T.

As for the hand, easy shove I think.
 
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The reasons for running a stop-and-go are, if you dont have any fold equity preflop, and/or your hand is to weak to rejam preflop. In this situation neither of that is true. With 14BB against a min-raise you have lots of fold equity, and its a great outcome for you, if he fold hands like KJo or QJs, which you are basically flipping with. And 88 is easily strong enough for a profitable rejam.

If you flick in a call, pot will be 11k with 26.5k left behind. This is far to much for a stop-and-go play, which mean open jamming the flop. Stop-and-go is for when, there is like a pot sized bet left or maybe a tiny bit more. Like 11k pot and 13,5k left behind. And even then are you really going to do that with 88 on a board like QJ4? I reality its more likely, you end up check-folding, and then you realise your equity poorly.
 
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Thanks for the input. I agree that my stack was too big and 88 too strong for a Stop-n-Go
 
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