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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6454933, member: 305911"] I think defending here is fine as deep as we are with a hand that at least some connectivity. I have been trying myself to defend more often especially when deep effective. On the flop we flop the flush draw and a backdoor straight draw so I wouldnt be going anywhere if I am defending here but I would also not look to bloat the pot. If villain is bluffing we have plenty of opportunities to take it away later and if they are on 10x or even larger we have some equity but I would not be looking to bloat the pot. My plan on this flop be out of position would be to check call to most sizings. Raising there gets worse stuff to fold which isnt bad necessarily since we could get some Ax non spades to fold that have no pairs but when we called its really bad. Its like we are charging ourselves more to draw with fold equity that is not much if we are facing a hand that is ahead of ours. Check calling is much better. On the turn as played I guess you have to barrel here but I would go smaller. I would bet a sizing that would make it look like I am going for value where you make it a sizing that looks like you are trying to blow them off the pot. I would prefer a check call flop line which then on this turn I would probably check call again (within reason based on sizing) but I think you could potentially lead here too if you had check called flop. I like checking better and hoping for a check behind if you had played flop as a check call. Again, given the raise you made on the flop I think you have to either continue or check fold. The river as played is probably a bet fold spot. The problem with checking is the 10x hands that villain could have should check back river and that would mean you leave a little value out there. Should villain be betting 10x here if I checked to? I would not think so and their Qx holdings, if any, would be better than your Q9 so I would not like facing a bet on this river. I think I like betting to target 10x and folding if I was raised but I really dont like the way you played the hand. I think you played it too fast and depending on the tendencies of villain, you will get looked up especially if you have played other hands like this and others at the table have seen what you have showdown. [/QUOTE]

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