$25 NL HE MTT: Deep run, Ako got backdoor flushdraw on turn

[Rajten]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

25

VP$IP

42

Currency

$

GG Masters daily 25$, 200 places paid. Hero 18/27 20bb stack

Pre flop

folds, to hero CO, hero raises 2,2bb, BU (splashy fish vpip 44%, 3 bet 17%, chip leader of torunament 60bb stack, calls, sb 39 bb folds, BB 16bb calls.

Flop 9hQh6s (8bb)

We got backdoor nutflash draw, but overall don't like this board, 3x checks

Turn 3h

BB checks, hero checks, Bu bets 4bb, BB folds, hero (18bb remaining stack calls),

River Kd (16bb)
Hero 14bb remaining stack ???

What do you think about this hand, on flop I check, because Bu could easly hit and also BB with his shallow reshove stack

On turn, I can probably lead, when both players showed weakness, raise from BU and BB is disastrous for me, but don't thinks they gonna do it very often. I decided to check, Bu bets, we have 3 options, call, raise and folds. Call seems the most resonable, raise it's interesting option, but I think I don't represent much. Fold seems too weak.

River

I don't have clue, what to do? Jt got, he got a lot of two pairs. Do we want bet or bluff catch here? I leaded for 5bb

Pre flop, What do you think about another opening sizing, for example 3x, with chip leader fish with position, and short stack on bb?

 

[300HPGOD]

I think you played this hand exactly the way I would have played it minus the river. and possibly pre flop. Especially with a fishy player behind that likes to play a lot of hands and is the chip leader I would open jam here some of the time. Whenever we get multi way with this hand and dont hit the flop we are giving up a lot which is necessary and something we just have to deal with given our stack but no one likes doing it including me. I think jamming pre flop is fine here along with making a min esque raise as you did. I think the tighter the players left to act I would want to just open since that would be enough to steal the blinds a lot but with fishy 44% players left to act jamming against their calling range with AK should be profitable. Both plays have their spot here on the CO with 20 BBs and AK just depends on the players behind us.

Flop is a check here as I wouldnt lead here as no Qx is folding and multi way I would assume 9x and 6x would be checking as well so checking gives us another card to potentially hit A or K. Again if I face a bet in this spot I put it more towards Qx then anything else. Button could bluff but I would not want to call them down. I would have rather jammed pre then call down post flop.

Turn as played is a check when it gets to us the first go round and then after the bet by button they are the type of player that we would expect to bet if checked to twice. We have ace high and some showdown value here. I mentioned on the flop I dont want to call down here but calling on the turn with showdown value is different than calling on the flop with showdown value. I think its fine here to call and see what the river brings. I dont hate folding either if you are sure you will face another barrel on the river. Not sure how aggressive this player is post flop.

River to me is not a lead as you made it with your sizing. If you are going to bet the river I would shove it all in but I dont like that play either. I much prefer checking here and bluff catching. There are hearts on the board (not sure if we have a heart or not in our hand which does make a difference here) so I think villain could bet huge on the river if we check to them again with all sorts of hands, especially if our read on them is that they are fishy. I check the river with every intention to call off any amount villain makes it. I figure if they check behind then I still scoop up some chips so its not all bad and if I lead the river I think a lot of crap that potentially would bluff to me would just fold. I almost wonder if this isnt a spot for a min bet on the river of 1 BB to see if that would induce villain to jam here. I think that is a potential move here we could do but in game I would just check and see what happens knowing that before I even make the check my mind is made up here that I am calling their bet should they make it.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Unless the opponents are completely terrible, we dont want to use staggered bet sizing and raise big with our strong hands and small with marginal hands, that we dont want to stack off preflop. So your sizing is correct. Its not optimal for your exact hand, but not giving away the strenght of your hand will increase your long term EV against all but the worst players.

Flop
I like your check. If stacks were much deeper, it would be a closer decision, but here the SPR is only is a little over 2, and we dont have any profitable plan, unless they both fold.

Turn
I think, this one is much closer, because they have showed weakness by checking, and now you have a draw to the nuts in case, you are behind. If you go for a delayed C-bet, you will need to get it in, if someone raise though. If you bet half pot, you would get 2:1 on a jam, and you have 9 outs to a flush plus 6 partial outs to top pair, and sometimes you might have the best hand already, if they are bluffing. So bet-fold is not an option now.

I do have a slight preference for your choise of checking again though. You could have the best hand already, so making them fold is not all that valuable. especially because any diamond will give you the nuts. Lets say for instance someone has T8. Then Jd will give them a straight, but it will be no good, because you now have a flush. So equity denial is less important, when you have a flushdraw.

When BTN bet, it should be a pretty polarized range. It makes no sense for him to check back a hand like QJ on the flop and then bet it now. So his value range should be two pair or better, and then he can also have a lot of bluffs. Raising against such a range makes no sense, so check-calling is definitely better than check-jamming.

Turn
You improved to top pair, but if his range on the turn was two pair or better and then bluffs, it makes no sense to donk bet for value, because you are mostly getting called by hands, that beat you. Maybe he can have the naked K of hearts, that he was bluffing with on the turn, and that exact hand will most likely call. But it might also bet for value if checked to, and by checking you allow him to continue bluffing. If someone is the chip leader and has a 17% 3-bet, there can be a lot of bluffs in his range, so the best way to get paid is to continue your passive line and let him hang himself.