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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 6523775, member: 385063"] No results seen Opn fine- sizing fine-BTN SB call Flop we flop very strong hand-- We want to think about the range our V's can have if they continue before we act on this flop. AA KK is very unlikely- We have the A high draw so K high only that leaves the nuts the V could have to be sets- both V would only call 88 66 most often preflop The hands we get value from on the flop weaker draws weaker QX but there is no KSQS combos which would most often be the hand that would stack off on flop that we are crushing. Straight flush combos are possible so we need to be aware of those You check flop ---When you say you overplayed your hand I assumed you bet too large on flop and got 2 folds I was never expecting a check We always always bet this flop- 33% or 25% is fine nothing larger is necessary. We bet to get stacks in so we want to build pots while our V's still have draws. BTN leads 1/3 pot BTN range is wide here so this bet size is incorrect for a full range bet which this sizing is used for. This might suggest they are strong here which means sets (after results--top pair is a larger bet than this if the V is skilled) You min click back screams strength so your action is unbalanced -so now we have complicated this more than it needs to be. BTN calls- would they call sets- most likely no Turn 5 making a straight for 97ss or other 97o We lead half pot leaving behind $862----What are we hoping to accomplish with this sizing- what calls this that we are ahead of that does not call a shove based on our range defining so far? We have outs to the nuts we can shove here- folds by BTN are ok too [B]We were always losing this hand that is the key to this hand- This is what you need to know in 25cent games We were always losing this hand. There is nothing we can do to win this hand this player is never folding- if we lead shove the flop we lose- if we check raise shove the flop we lose If we min XR the flop then lead shove the turn we lose---this player is never folding. [/B] You did not over play your hand you under played it- by checking flop you allowed too much of the BTN range and the SB range to realize equity by btn checking back. Your min check raise flop is good sizing if it is a setup for a turn shove as a balanced play with bluffs but you did not shove turn. At 25cents we do not need to balance. [/QUOTE]

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