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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 7169962, member: 385063"] When we over bet jam river there are 2 strategies we use. 1 Our V is weak and will over fold. As played, this is the strategy you employed. We want to do this purposefully. That means you had to have the intention of getting single pairs to fold on the river--this is a good strategy when we do it on purpose. How was this the strategy you employed-- your bet sizing on turn allowed your V to raise their better hands yet they did not raise. This means they are weak and if we know our player pool over folds then we have the green light to jam If you knew this, it was a good bluff. If you did not have these specific thoughts, then not a good bluff. The good news now you know what to be thinking on the turn when our V just calls. You want to think about what cards you do not shove before the river comes but you know you are going to shove before the river comes. 2 When we assume our V do not over fold--- then we base our over bet jams on ranges-- specifically can we have the nuts because we would jam the nuts most often and balance with bluffs. What is the nuts on this board on the river? T8 do we have a large number of combos of T8? Does our V? Do we want to be jamming AA- QQ for value? Why would we Jam JJ on river for value? Why small bet turn with a set on that ugly of a board? So we really do not have sets to jam on river---vs a good player this is a suicide bluff it just does not make sense. It will get thru sometimes though even vs a strong player--just not often enough to be a good bluff. [USER=397965]@fundiver199[/USER] posted the approach we would use for strategy 2 --how to bluff stronger players by repping the correct range throughout the hand. :unsure::geek: [/QUOTE]

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