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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 6606376, member: 385063"] Hand 1 - It is best to not go down this thought pathway- this is never a call- nor a raise in this spot with this hand Hand 2 - Why would a J bet? What hand is it targeting for value? Why would it need protection? Why would it not want to hide in the bushes- You state J or better would bet- why would those hands not slow play? On this board is it not an easy fold for you to a single bet on flop 3 way. If yes then why expect a J or better to bet? Would not your V think you would check AA for pot control? Yes a GTO bot knows to bet a J expecting you to call but you are playing a maniac who wants to trap you. As played - K9off is not a raise 100bb deep vs UTG range- fold preflop-- If you always fold weak Kx off in this spot you will print money. -Flop checking is good -see above- turn -we want to bet why? See above-When we bet it is always bluff and value what value hands bet this size on this board targeting what V ranges? In exploit talk what calls us that we are ahead of for this size When we use large sizing it is -polarized- that means we have nuts and nothing- we do not have the nuts -we do not have nothing- so if we were to bet we would never use this sizing with this type of hand. That is GTO- however non GTO we are in the same spot- with a maniac behind us the maniac can now shove any two cards and we can never call with a weak 2 pair- this is that spot where we bet 25%- we get value from under pairs and draws and we do not risk very much of our stack- Why 25% and not 75% - stack depth and maniac- maniac is maniac we do not change their choices with bet sizing We also want to remember what this spot is exactly- it is a 3 bet 3 way pot with what should be two incredibly tight ranges and one wider range 80 bb effective- In this spot with a 9 why not just check again and decide? Great job getting to day 2 hope you RUN WELL & BINK [/QUOTE]

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