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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6468834, member: 305911"] KK hand: We start with 25 BBs so the only real question in this hand imo is should we min open or should we 2.5x open and that would come down to what are sizing has been lately. If we have been playing tight and not opening much or have just moved to this table I like 2.5x ing here even though we are short just so we can get a little more value on the flop since a lot of the time I would plan to only get one street here due to opponents folding. With how the hand played out pre I would be fist pumping to get it in as you did and just unfortunate you ran into Aces. KJ hand: With a 3 bet in front of you and a over caller after that I am liking KJ less and less. I think 4 betting gets us now where plus we are not deep enough to do it without jamming (to get fold equity anyway) and I think jamming KJ there into the action in front of you is suicide. Calling is not great either as you could easily hit a pair here and still not be good. It would be like we are calling here to play for the flush or straight and we are not deep enough to do that so this is a relatively easy fold imo with the action in front of you plus with more people still to act behind. As played though on the flop you have to go with it as you did and ran into a nasty river. 109 Hand: This is by far the most interesting hand of the 3. Defending here to this sizing with 109 suited is a must this deep. You flop it and first comes a decision to lead or not. I only say it is a decision because I do not want a check behind here and a turn coming out. However, I would do as you did here and check to the initial raiser. Luckily, they bet out for us and then it gets interesting with a check raise by SB. Its hard for SB villain to have a 10 due to 3 of them being accounted for and depending on the type of player they are (I dont know how they play writing this) they could easily be check raising with a draw here as they would not be doing so with 22 in my opinion since they would not worry about the flush and would be praying a spade came anyway. They would be looking for value and not folds. Another 10x could do this as they would be scared of the flush. I like raising on the flop because with them being in the SB they are wider than normal due to pre flop pot odds and can still have 107, 108, 106 type hands and play this way if they even have 10x. If they are on a draw then we can deny some equity with a raise or even induce them to keep going (although I am not fist pumping if I get raised here but I am not folding either). As played after you call the flop bet by villain then a spade comes which sucks on many fronts. We are either behind now or it is an action killing card where smaller 10x may not be as willing to go with it now if thats what they should have. Any bluffs if possible also shut down unless they have the Ace of spades. Here, in game, I think I would do the opposite of you now and just call figuring if they arent folding to a raise if they have the flush and even if they have a bigger 10x they are probably going with it just as I am thinking in this hand I am going with my 10x. So raising here is like turning your 10x into a bluff which given the villain had a bigger 10x actually was a decent chance but villain just isnt folding anything there that beats us imo. Therefore, I think this becomes a showdown value type hand here and just call turn and hope you face a small bet or get checked to on the river. [/QUOTE]

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