$10 NL HE MTT: Overpair facing a donk bet and tripple barrel on monotone board

[fundiver199]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

10

Game Options

1. Turbo

Currency

$

Game is an 18-man SnG on pokerstars. 4 places pay and around 10 players left so not near the bubble yet. Main opponent had HUD-stats of VPIP 35 / PFR 16, 3-bet 1, AF 3 over a sample of 299 hands. So very passive preflop but perhaps a bit more aggressive postflop? Do you call him down on the river or perhaps so something different on the earlier streets?

PokerStars, $9.22 + $0.78 - Hold'em No Limit - 25/50 (6 ante) - 5 players
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Fundiver199 (UTG): 1,910 (38 bb)
Mikeeo (CO): 3,001 (60 bb)
dare96 (BU): 4,943 (99 bb)
AVOCATUS2 (SB): 1,371 (27 bb)
jaybird486 (BB): 2,847 (57 bb)

Pre-Flop: (105) Hero (Fundiver199) is UTG with Q♥ Q♣
Fundiver199 (UTG) raises to 125, Mikeeo (CO) calls 125, 1 fold, AVOCATUS2 (SB) calls 100, jaybird486 (BB) calls 75

Flop: (530) 2♠ J♠ 6♠ (4 players)
AVOCATUS2 (SB) checks, jaybird486 (BB) bets 265, Fundiver199 (UTG) calls 265, 2 players fold

Turn: (1,060) 2♥ (2 players)
jaybird486 (BB) bets 530, Fundiver199 (UTG) calls 530

River: (2,120) 4♥ (2 players)
jaybird486 (BB) bets 1,060, Fundiver199 (UTG)?

 

[mariussica88]

That many opponents are not ideal when you have QQ, but I still think that I'm good most of the times here, so I would jam the turn there. Bare in mind that I do like to play more aggressive than most

As played I would call him on the river also.

 

[fundiver199]

That many opponents are not ideal when you have QQ, but I still think that I'm good most of the times here, so I would jam the turn there.

Yeah I agree. On the flop I just called to see, what the other two guys did. Like if there was a raise and a jam behind me, then I have a fairly easy fold in a multiway pot. But with them out of the way I think, a typical donking range is something like top pair or a draw, in this case most likely the nut flushdraw. Its more rare, that people donk out, if they have a really strong hand like a flopped flush. The turn card was a complete brick, so it would have been reasonably to fastplay and force him to call it off now, before a possible 4-flush kill the action from top pair.

As played I would call him on the river also.

Which I did. Here is the result:

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[primrose]

They could easily triple-barrel a Jack or the Ace of Spades and you only need to be right a third of the time. I'm calling. Would play the other streets like you did as well. Jamming the Turn is interesting, would not have done it but it might be correct.

 

[SPANKYSN]

I think you played that well...easy to say after I've seen the results LOL.

 

[Margo17]

I pay, but he'll still have a lot of worse combos playing like this, as well as combos draws and draws that hit the A and K in the flush.

 

[eetenor]

Game is an 18-man SnG on PokerStars. 4 places pay and around 10 players left so not near the bubble yet. Main opponent had HUD-stats of VPIP 35 / PFR 16, 3-bet 1, AF 3 over a sample of 299 hands. So very passive preflop but perhaps a bit more aggressive postflop? Do you call him down on the river or perhaps so something different on the earlier streets?

PokerStars, $9.22 + $0.78 - Hold'em No Limit - 25/50 (6 ante) - 5 players
Hand delivered by CardsChat - https://www.cardschat.com/hand-converter.php

Fundiver199 (UTG): 1,910 (38 bb)
Mikeeo (CO): 3,001 (60 bb)
dare96 (BU): 4,943 (99 bb)
AVOCATUS2 (SB): 1,371 (27 bb)
jaybird486 (BB): 2,847 (57 bb)

Pre-Flop: (105) Hero (Fundiver199) is UTG with Q♥ Q♣
Fundiver199 (UTG) raises to 125, Mikeeo (CO) calls 125, 1 fold, AVOCATUS2 (SB) calls 100, jaybird486 (BB) calls 75

Flop: (530) 2♠ J♠ 6♠ (4 players)
AVOCATUS2 (SB) checks, jaybird486 (BB) bets 265, Fundiver199 (UTG) calls 265, 2 players fold

Turn: (1,060) 2♥ (2 players)
jaybird486 (BB) bets 530, Fundiver199 (UTG) calls 530

River: (2,120) 4♥ (2 players)
jaybird486 (BB) bets 1,060, Fundiver199 (UTG)?

The aggression level on the flop is high for a normally passive player--if this was HU we could adjust their flop agg level based on that factor but they are leading into 2 players with a third SB still live to act- SB would check the nuts-- for a passive player this is not a normal adjustment--therefore we would range them stronger than say just AsX no pair or 45 53 one spade Jx no spade-- so hands we beat that are strong are AsJ KsJ maybe QsJ---
I do not know your V, is half pot standard sizing with value but small for semi bluffs?
The turn is the data point that matters the most. V again uses half pot standard value bet--they do not equity deny -they do not blocker bet they do not go for max value vs the ASX hands you could have- They do not small bet with the nuts as you will be folding turn often to half pot--are they expecting turn overfolds from half pot bets?
does this mean anything in your player pool? Do they have turn bet sizing skills?
River same sizing why? Do they make bet sizing adjustments? What size should nuts and bluffs bet on river? Does Jx no spade bet half pot if so why?
On River again as played vs this sizing vs a standard passive preflop player the strong hands they misplay that we beat are AJ KJ QJ one spade --we lose to all their flushes and quads and boats all of which would bet half pot as a default-- we also beat bluffs but finding half pot bet bluffs requires us to think this V has agg when they are normally passive but have no range bet adjustments when bluffing.
Most frequently passive players when they are bluffing will try to make us fold at some point by betting larger. Their own style is to just call down in spots like this so they know they would fold to a big bet so why would you not?

 

[fundiver199]

River same sizing why?

The river bet puts me all-in, so its essentially a jam.

 

[eetenor]

The river bet puts me all-in, so its essentially a jam.

That is very interesting that they used perfect sizing to get you all-in by the river. I would further lean towards a passive player having the best hand here most frequently. This does not seem like a passive player bluff or thin value, again most frequently---in poker you are never 100%