$10 NL HE MTT: Learn from the opponents - dont make game theory disaster bets

[fundiver199]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

10

Game Options

1. Turbo

Currency

$

This hand is from an 18-man SnG on pokerstars. Since they raised the rake for most single table SnGs last year, this has been my favourite format. A game theory disaster bet is, when you have a hand, thats quite strong and could be ahead, but you play it so fast, that you will almost always get worse hands to fold and only better hands to call. From my perspective this hand is a bit like the one from the Fifty/50 SnG. The opponent did 3-bet preflop, so he could have QQ+, but I just dont believe, that these hands would play like this on the flop very often.

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[Sunz of Beaches]

There is no hand on this board that justifies this all in overbet imo. Not even a set or a high overpair. Doing it with a middleish value hand is a Desaster for the reasons already mentioned.

His intention was to end the hand right there which is a typical beginner mistake.

 

[fundiver199]

His intention was to end the hand right there which is a typical beginner mistake.

I guess so, and I can kind of understand why. Because its not fun to be out of position in a bloated pot with a middling pair like 88. If he make a small C-bet and get called, then he is kind of in the dark on most future cards. But this is something, you need to think about, before you 3-bet 88 out of position. Its not like, the hand has relevant blockers (to an A or other high cards), so you will get called more often, than when you 3-bet for instance AK.

And if you are not comfortable with that situation, then maybe dont make the 3-bet in the first place. It is allowed to have a calling range from SB in games with ante against small sizing, and a hand like 88 can play fairly well in this way 67 BB deep. Mostly a setmine, but you can also peel 1-2 streets on some boards without a set, especially if the field caller gets out of the way, or the preflop raiser give up his betting lead.

Just for fun I checked the solution for this preflop configuration in GTO Wizard, and SB has just as many combos, that call as 3-bet. 88 specifically is never folded, but its only 3-bet something like 20% of the time. So the more standard play here is definitely to just call preflop, and if you are going to massively spew chips in a 3-bet pot, when you get action, then maybe just always call.