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Message: [QUOTE="I Live Poker, post: 6627389, member: 424044"] As already mentioned, it really is a hand that plays very badly post flop and I was out of position, but what I think weighed the most in this spot was really the stack depth. My decision to complete the SB was based on the pot odds, and upon checking that I realized that I was really close to a call, and this type of hand when you don't hit a monster on the flop is an easy decision to fold. Well already on the flop I chose to check raise for value, as there was a short stack villain I thought it would be a good option against 3 players. But that didn't happen. Turn Qd , well then on the turn I made about half of shorty's stack by targeting his jam and also trying to extract some more information from villain that caused me risk. When he only called 1/2 the pot, I was on high alert. Why that? -On a board with a doubled card, A, Q and flush draw, with a villain with TAG stats and playing decently (despite very little sampling).. With which hand would he make this flat? - Surely he already excludes the Ax from his hand, and because he was TAG and had a doubled card, I thought that either he would be calling with a flush draw, or he already had a fullhouse. (Really these hands are always tricky to play, but I was willing to pay the price of folding) Then the shortstack villain goes allin, as I was already partially committed to the pot at this point, I called, thinking that maybe in his first call there would also be the middle/high pair range 77<JJ , and maybe he would fold or play the call turn and check check river for the dawn show. On the river the decision was clear. I posted this hand because it's a very unusual hand, I fully agree that in general it's always very difficult to play garbage hands, however I had pot odds to call, and if you play carefully, you won't necessarily throw your tournament away. [ATTACH type="full"]326893[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

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