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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6627228, member: 397965"] Preflop Even to a minraise we dont need to defend offsuit junk and especially not multiway, so I would just fold. Flop Stacks are short enough, that you can get all the chips in by going bet, bet, jam, and its unlikely, someone is going to bet with pure air into 3 opponents. I also dont think, weak AX hands like A6 or even AT are always going to bet, but they are never going to fold, at least not to the first bet. And for those reasons I prefer to lead out AKA "donk bet" in this situation. The main reason is, that its a multiway pot, where initiative tend to matter less than hitting the flop. Turn Definitely need to start building up that pot now. The CO jam does not reopen the betting, so no other option than to just call and take a river. Which would likely be the play anyway, since you want to keep MP+1 in with AX hands, that are drawing nearly dead. River Pretty nasty river card completing both a flush and straight. The first question is, can you still jam for value, and I think, the answer is no. If MP+1 had a hand like AK or AQ, he would most likely have bet the flop. So you would be trying to target AJ or worse, and if he is any type of player, he is probably not going to give you action with those hands. Especially since this is a protected pot. CO is already all-in, and there is no side pot, so you cant ever bluff the river. So the play here is to check and hope, he check behind, and you have the best hand. He does not check behind though, and what I just said about you not being able to ever have a bluff, also goes for him. Its also not likely, that AJ or worse does this "for value", unless he is really bad. So for me this is a sigh-fold. Results Basically a bad beat, but while super results oriented leading out on the flop might have changed the outcome, since its very difficult for him to call with an underpair, when he have 2 other players left to act behind him. Luckily the river card allowed you to get away relatively cheaply, and I think, you played the turn and river well. But other than being a little more disciplined postflop, the most important thing to take away from this hand is to start incorporating some flop leads AKA "donk bets" into your game, rather than always checking to the preflop raiser without even considering your options. [/QUOTE]

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