$1.65 NL HE STT: Crippled stack shoving decision

[tzuriel]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

STT

Buy-in

1.65

Currency

$

Micro SnG with a bunch of people I never played with and a couple I know are decent. I was crippled (6bb left )on a flip several hands before this one and then I get 33 on the BTN with a raise and a call ahead of me. I opted to fold . I'm either flipping or way behind. Correct or not?

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem $1.50+$0.15 (120.00BB)
BB (19.2BBs)
UTG (13.7BBs)
UTG_1 (23.7BBs)
MP (41.8BBs)
CO (17.3BBs)
HERO (6.1BBs)
SB (11.5BBs)

Dealt to Hero: 3♦ 3♥

UTG Folds, UTG_1 Raises To 2.1BBs, MP Folds, CO Calls 2BBs, HERO Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls 1BBs

My thought was that this is going to the River because I don't think I have the fold equity against a raiser with 23bb and a caller. BB probably folds if I shove but original raiser probably calls for 4 more bb. And maybe even the CO calls in this game. People do funny things in the micros.

33 doesn't expect to win by the River very often. Against just the raise I think I probably would have called.

Thoughts? Too tight?

 

[primrose]

Interesting spot. Don't blame you for folding. But you should probably shove because of the dead money. BB will fold, and UTG1 will all-in to isolate. You'll probably flip, and if you win, you will have over 16BB.

 

[fundiver199]

I agree with primrose. In a microstakes game CO is usually just dead money, because he would jam most of his strong hands, and he is only calling with more marginal hands + maybe an occational trap with AA or KK. And because of that, if you jam and reopen the betting for UTG+1, he will often overjam, which is a great situation for you, because it pushes CO out of the pot and creates a big overlay. So while you dont have fold equity from your own stack, you can leverage the two bigger stacks against each other, and this makes it profitable to jam even 22 or 33.

 

[tzuriel]

Okay. Thanks for your responses!

 

[Rldetheflop]

I think you have to get in here. Being that short you will need to get in soon and it could definitely be in worse spot than this

 

[yomarianob]

It depends, are you in the money, or near final tables? Then I would def fold.

If you're in early stages, call, for sure.

 

[eetenor]

Micro SnG with a bunch of people I never played with and a couple I know are decent. I was crippled (6bb left )on a flip several hands before this one and then I get 33 on the BTN with a raise and a call ahead of me. I opted to fold . I'm either flipping or way behind. Correct or not?

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem $1.50+$0.15 (120.00BB)
BB (19.2BBs)
UTG (13.7BBs)
UTG_1 (23.7BBs)
MP (41.8BBs)
CO (17.3BBs)
HERO (6.1BBs)
SB (11.5BBs)

Dealt to Hero: 3♦ 3♥

UTG Folds, UTG_1 Raises To 2.1BBs, MP Folds, CO Calls 2BBs, HERO Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls 1BBs

My thought was that this is going to the River because I don't think I have the fold equity against a raiser with 23bb and a caller. BB probably folds if I shove but original raiser probably calls for 4 more bb. And maybe even the CO calls in this game. People do funny things in the micros.

33 doesn't expect to win by the River very often. Against just the raise I think I probably would have called.

Thoughts? Too tight?

As others have said if certain actions occur the 33 is a good shove. However, if those actions are less frequent than the actions you described then it is not a good shove. If it goes 3 way not good. If your read on the table is what you suggested, then folding is fine.
I would say that calling 33 off 6 bb vs UTG1 only is not the best action. We open it up to be multiway again as the blinds are priced in to call and we would have spr of 1 or less and now have only 4 bb if we fold.

 

[IveGotToeJam]

I'd fold this. There's a high chance you're getting called by both players and your hand just doesn't do well at all in a multiway pot

 

[_420_420_]

How many players get paid? Is it a single table or are you on the bubble already? Either way I am assuming that if you are ITM then this is an easy shove. But if you are 3 people away from the money I understand wanting to wait for a better hand. You are always getting called by better pocket pairs, obviously, but also a lot of hands that you are racing with (Basically any Broadway hand, or even suited connectors if they are real loose). So shoving is high variance for sure, but if you are willing to flip, then go for it.

 

[tzuriel]

Sit and Go - 3 people get paid. This is not an MTT