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Message: [QUOTE="Matt_Burns88, post: 6704739, member: 343619"] The important thing to think about here is the long term profitability of the possible plays, not just how this specific hand turned out Shoving 18bb with AA is certainly profitable. The trouble is, you will often just pick up the blinds and therefore not maximise the full strength of this powerhouse hand. Note that the solvers will tell you that it is more profitable to min-raise with AA and KK in this spot with 10bb. On the flop, I really don't like villain's lead with his specific hand, although it is a board he can occasionally lead on. Once he does lead, you've just got to get it in here to charge the draws like T9 spades the maximum which is the sort of hand I would put them on when they lead (including some two pairs and sets and A8o with the Aspades). The turn is not a great card for you, but you're in too deep with too much equity to let AA go now. BB bets large and you've really no choice but to stack off. Just going back to the flop for a moment - shoving the flop avoids this kind of situation where you are now often behind when villain bets 70% pot and 63% of your stack, you have virtually no fold equity, so shoving flop just avoids this awkward situation completely. I think Villain's play stinks here. The defend is perfectly fine, but the lead is terrible, the double barrel is almost as bad and then he's priced in to call your shove. I don't think you made any huge mistakes here, although I do prefer a shove on the flop. I would make a note on villain and move on. These are exactly the types of opponents you want to be playing on a regular basis, but you have to accept that occasionally the donkey play gets there. [/QUOTE]

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