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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6708972, member: 305911"] You asked about the SB in your post but to me really the crux of this hand is the pre flop decision. I know this is a $1.10 and stuff is possible but this is by no means an automatic continue/involvement in the hand with AJ off UTG+1. If UTG stats are anything decent to tight like vpip <25%, raise <20% I lean towards just folding this. I think we could call in that spot if the rest of the table is not aggressive but we do have a 7 BB stack in the BB that if we did call and they jammed then it would be re-opened which we dont want if we are just flatting to begin with so I dont like the 3 bet to be sure unless villain is loose/passive. This is also a spot to me where I feel like it makes a large difference to have AJ off vs AJ suited. Therefore I think this spot is more of a call or fold spot based on our hand strength. There was a hand in the forum the other day where I went on about how QQ UTG+1 is a 3 bet but there are large differences between QQ and AJ of course. If villain is opening any sort of semi-tight UTG range how many hands are we ahead of here? KQ and KQ suited and the A10s but not much else. Villain would have to be loose here for your play to make sense imo. Flop: SB is wide based on (I know only 6 hands) that they have played most of their hands dealt to them so I think they could have good hands here based on the board like sets and straights that really shatter yours and they could be behind you as well. I am not sure the sets and straights lead here knowing there is a very good chance someone bets behind them but they could based on the board being super wet. I agree with others that have said that its pointless to call here, this is a jam or fold spot. The problem I have with this is that on face value to me this is too much to get in here and too big of a risk of chips but if we are going to 4x 3 bet this hand pre and then get a bunch of calls and then get a flop where we TPTK it in a bounty where we have the villain covered we are going to look to fold now since they lead into us? I dont know, have a little bit of a hard time answering it cause I just would not 3 bet it here but I think in game I would fold even if I put myself in this spot (not saying folding is right, Im saying that is what I know I would do in game). Im folding here and putting some notes on SB on what they did pre off this stack from the SB, what they did flop, etc. so if I see this again I can be more confident next time. I dont think its bad to call here though. The above is a roundabout way of saying I dont know what the hell to do on the flop, lol, other than dont just call. [/QUOTE]

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