$0,50 NL HE MTT: Shove or fold in bubble?

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Ok, this was the FT in an MTSnG with 45 player, 7 get paid, 8 Was my shove correct? Or should I have folded due to playing more tight on the bubble? I was position 5 or 6 based on chips.

pokerstars, $0.45 + $0.05 - Hold'em No Limit - 400/800 (50 ante) - 8 players
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Luba.ptn (UTG): 5,910 (7 bb)
LittleDaniell (UTG+1): 7,068 (9 bb)
mottl30 (MP): 6,557 (8 bb)
matteushz (MP+1): 13,940 (17 bb)
Dvisionere (CO): 19,920 (25 bb)
Uterobart (BU): 6,350 (8 bb)
pwsurfer (SB): 1,744 (2 bb)
AndyreasDE (BB): 6,011 (8 bb)

Pre-Flop:
(1,600) Hero (AndyreasDE) is BB with Q A
3 players fold, matteushz (MP+1) raises to 1,760, 3 players fold, AndyreasDE (BB) 3-bets to 5,961 (all-in), matteushz (MP+1) calls 4,201

Flop: (12,722) 6 9 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (12,722) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (12,722) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 12,722

Showdown:
AndyreasDE (BB) shows Q A (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 51%, Turn: 32%, River: 0%)

matteushz (MP+1) shows 5 9 (a pair of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 49%, Turn: 68%, River: 100%)

matteushz (MP+1) wins 12,722
 
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Shove or fold in bubble?
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All three options are available here as there is a player with 2 bb and u r playing players who do not fold correctly-So we can just call see a flop and over fold to min cash- why because the V is not folding anything they open and will still pay off if we are ahead and that catch anything. Vs better players it is a shove 100% because they will fold and they do not payoff on a Ax5 board
 
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If this was the bubble of a 9-man SnG, where you have 8BB, and the player to your right only 2BB, then I can absolutely see folding here and try to make it into the money before going for the win. Or maybe just call and then play completely fit-or-fold on the flop. However the payout structure in a 45 man SnG is similar to that in MTTs, and then there is a lot of value in more than dubbling your stack rather than lose 13% of it by folding. If you win this "flip", you become the second chip leader, which puts you in a great position to shove on all the short stacks and not just cash but ladder up several places.

So jamming here is the correct play, or you can run the so called stop-and-go. Which mean, you just call preflop, but then you donk shove all flops, that are not terrible for your hand, including this one, where you flopped the third nut flushdraw. The idea of that play is, it can give more fold equity than moving in preflop, but in this particular case I dont think, he would have folded top pair, so the outcome would have been the same.
 
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