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Message: [QUOTE="absoluthamm, post: 1699923, member: 39314"] I dis it only because of what the product is and what it is worth. It may be getting better than it once was, but it still is no where near worth what you're charging for it. I have never heard of even a remotely successful poker player(tournament or ring game) say that they use a calculator or indicator(Let alone use one for during the game and then tracking software for review afterwards). Do I know 423 x 16? No, not off of the top of my head, but when doing my away from the table work, if I notice that a situation like that was coming up often enough for me to give it thought, then I would do the calculations and LEARN from it. Just giving yourself the odds at the table isn't going to teach you squat, isn't helping you become a better poker player, and is essentially just telling bad players whether to call or fold, not telling them WHY. Also, why the hell would someone buy both an indicator and tracking software when tracking software does so much more than an indicator both at the table and away. As far as: are you serious? It has win odds, pot odds and outs. That's about it. Do you really want to me to go through all of the stats and flexibility that HEM or PT3 have over that "feature set"(just check the stat guide in my sig to save me time). Let alone for ~1/2 the price(you don't need the full version since you're average buy-in is only $8.44....hey you told me to Sharkscope you). Also, this is coming from someone who does not have any type of allegiance to HEM/PT3/Indicators/Bots/Whatever, I just name it how I see it. Being a long time member of CC, 2p2 and 55's, it cracks me up that you're taking such offense to this as I've never seen anything really positive about it on any of the biggest poker forums on the net. The 2p2 catchall thread even says that not many players use it... I OPR'd and SharkScoped you, and I see that yes, you have had success with SnG's, but I would imagine that if you stopped using an indicator, you would still have success, because you are a good poker player, not because you have to be told that you only have 5 outs on the turn and therefore only are 11% to hit your hand. [/QUOTE]

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