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Message: [QUOTE="ChuckTs, post: 1049246, member: 467"] Expanding on the isolation spots...funny because this was actually the exact situation I was going to talk about next. [B]3) Isolating limpers:[/B] Like FP said, the first stat we refer to is their limp-call %. This isn't found in the popup, so you'll have to manually add it to your layout. 4+1+.5+1=6.5 4/6.5 = .615 => %62 I've always been a little unsure I was doing these 'min. fold % for play to be profitable' math equations properly; I'm pretty sure that's correct though. If it is, then in order to raise 4BB with a limper in the pot, we would actually need him to limp call %38 (%100-%62) or less. No limit games are more than simple 'in a vacuum' calculations though. Sometimes we'll improve to the best hand, sometimes we'll have the best hand, sometimes we'll have the worst hand but take it down on the flop...so the %38 is just a starting point. The other stats I look at are mainly their fold to cbet per street stats, how passive they are postflop and their wtsd number. Looking at an extreme case, if someone has a %100 limp-call percentage, but also has a %100 fold to cbet percentage, then I'm isolating %100 of my range. More realistic numbers would be something like %80 and %80 for limp-call/fold to cbet. Again, the %80 would seem bad if you isolated it, but looking at it in conjunction with other stats shows that we can still profit massively from isolating these players. Some other points about isolation raises: for one, you prefer to be in position. Value betting, bluffing, getting cheap showdowns and playing the hand better in general are simply easier in position. Another thing to note is that you should tighten up your range based on how loose the opponents behind you are, and how light they 3bet. [/QUOTE]

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