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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6077280, member: 397965"] Thats not, what the TOS of ACR say. The TOS talk about "deliberately slowing down action to gain an unfair advantage". Letting the time bank run down every hand just to fold garbage is certainly to "deliberately slow down action", so this is not allowed on ACR according to the TOS. Now given the fact, that this Reddit post was deleted, I am pretty sure, the guy got his money back. And most likely ACR have never stolen someones money for stalling or anything similar. But this still leads me back to the question, why ACR then insist on having TOS, that allow them to do it? The TOS is a contract between the site and the player, and having this kind of TOS is certainly not conducive for building up a trusting customer relationsship. Or for that matter for building up trust in online poker is general. ACR is basically saying "please entrust us with your money. We are then allowed to keep it for any reason, we deem appropriate, but dont worry, because we wont actually do it, unless you do something really bad". This is particularly ridiculous in light of the controversy between Jonathan Little and ACR, where an ACR sponsored pro, who I beleive was Jeff Boski, made an absolutely ridiculous claim, that money deposited on ACR is safer than in a US bank. Just to avoid misunderstanding I dont have any problem with poker sites kicking out people, who they deem are not good for the game. Its not a right for anyone to play on a particular poker site. But there is a huge difference between kicking people out and not giving them their money back. If I start a bar fight, I fully expect to be asked to leave the premises and not come back again. But I also expect, that I am allowed to pick up my coat in the wardrope on my way out. I also believe, that rather than asking people to play in a particular way, poker sites should implement technical solutions, that combat some of the behaviour, which is not good for the game. Like ACR have done now with its cash games, where people now have to sit down and pay the first blind, before they can see, who is on the table. This is completely fine. But writing in the TOS, that "excessive bumhunting" is not allowed and can lead to confiscation of funds, is bullshit. [/QUOTE]

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