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Message: [QUOTE="Phoenix Wright, post: 5757384, member: 419963"] Lots of members are responding too literal to the course title I think. I believe the title is not super important; it is the content quality that matters. Besides, the course target audience was beginning players and maybe inexperienced beginning to intermediate players. The title didn't say you will win the WSOP Main Event in 30 Days from now; the title isn't really too important, but I find the title to be fine. Too many are over-analyzing it :D I've heard the same quotation (word for word) applied to many things (golf, chess and many others things). In fact, this is true for many things in life. Knowing the rules and "mastering" are two separate topics. I forget which: but an old psychology study tracked progress for beginners of various fields, games and hobbies. They claim to have found a common correlation (regardless of what was studied) that most everything takes about 10,000 hours of practice/training/study to "master." Maybe this is true: I don't know. Specifically, I question the ambiguous definition of "master" here. Take golf for instance: does this mean that most make it to the PGA Tour after 10,000 hours of practice? I kind of doubt it, but perhaps most don't ever reach 10,000 hours. I'm not sure of the numbers for correlations, but at least I intuitively agree that most things take a ton of time and effort to "master." Following this logic, it doesn't seem that 30 Days is enough time to "master" poker, but it might be enough to make someone a "winner." How loose is the term "winner" used is the key. Will you be a full-time pro poker player within 30 Days? Virtually impossible (and even if one case was true, then was that variance/luck since 30 days is a small sample). If "winner" is not equal to "mastering" the game, then would winning one homegame count as making someone a "winner?" That might be feasible in 30 days - especially in a soft homegame. Agreed. You tend to get out what you put in. The course is free, but the ones who will benefit the most are undoubtedly the ones willing to review, study and learn more content beyond simply that course. During the time I took the 30 Day course, I also bought and read Moshman's HU book too (read cover to cover). It was one of many things I did to prepare for the freeroll at the end of the course (that was my first ever freeroll: I only played super small homegames before then). It is a good book, but there are many great poker resources out there. Let us not forget cardschat is a great resource too :) +1 Of course "living from poker" is closer to the realm of "mastering" the game; I think this is a bit more advanced than simply being considered a "winner." Sounds to me like winning even once (could be the softest homegame you could think of) technically makes that player a "winner" (at least for that session anyway). I learned a ton as well. Granted, I was already familiar with some concepts before, but some others were very new for me. For example, the day on ICM pressure was mostly new for me because my experience to that point was casual homegames. The was no real "pressure" of busting in that atmosphere because people will just reload chips. Hey, congratulations! A win is a win :) I won't get nostalgic about my first ever freeroll win. It feels like so long ago, but it was only a few months ago. (Yes, it was the 30 Day Course freeroll we are discussing that I won :D but I've won several freerolls after that. That being my first ever freeroll and also a win will always make it special for me though - more so the experience and sense of accomplishment, but the prize "winnings" was nice too). [/QUOTE]

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