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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 2169117, member: 23910"] I don't know exactly what procedure Crockfords uses when dealing punto banco, but there's been multiple references over the course of this story to them using a shuffling machine. I'm assuming the cards go through the shuffling machine and then get placed in a shoe for dealing. It could even be a shoe with a shuffling machine built into it, I don't know. Point is, most shuffling machines don't actually rotate the cards, they just reorder them. So if you put a card in facing one way it'll come out still facing that way, just in a different spot in the deck. When it comes time to deal the cards out of the shoe, note that you can still see the leading edge of the first card in the shoe - just like you could recognise the top card on the deck in a poker game if the back of the card is marked. In punto banco, if you've somehow sorted the deck so that you can recognise valuable cards, you could tell before the start of the hand whether the first card dealt was going to be a valuable one or not and you could adjust your bets accordingly. It wouldn't be easy to keep it all straight, and it seems like a pretty blatant to boot so I think the casino [b]must[/b] have been onto them very early in the session and let them keep going anyway. But as long as the dealer is willing to comply with the player's requests to turn certain cards this way or that, in theory its doable. LOL - I'm talking about Crown too :) Something blatant like that where there's been a definite mistake, the player is still in the building and they can correct it sure, they can follow it up. But I've been in cash games there where, say, the dealer has under-calculated the rake, dropped the lesser amount and started dealing the next hand and it's just been too late, they've moved on without "correcting" the error. I imagine the dealer probably gets a talking to later on but the players have never been chased for the extra money. [/QUOTE]

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