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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6360386, member: 397965"] Personally I dont think, Phil would intentionally run an angle against an amateur in full public in a streamed game. Or at least I dont think, he was expecting his opponents to show his cards. Its more likely, he was trying to provoke an emotional reaction, so he could judge, if his opponent prefered a fold or call. Phil has always taken pride in his "reading abilities", and to be fair this is a big and legit part of live poker. So there is definitely a grey zone here, between when something is just part of the game, and when its an angle. Which by the way is not even directly against the rules, its just considered scummy by most. But when PokerStars recently celebrated their 20 year anniversary with nominations of "best hands ever" in different categories, one of those were essentially "best angle". And the winner was none other than Daniel Negreanu for a stunt, where he pretended to "misclick" and open raise to some absurd amount with AK, and his opponent took the bait and got it in preflop with AJ. So there is also a bit of dubble standards here, where apparently for parts of the poker community, angle shooting is ok, when its done by someone, they like, but not when its done by someone, they dislike. Regardless of Phils intension I agree with Doug Polks take, that in a situation like this, the floor should have been called over and made a ruling, especially when one of the players involved was inexperienced. Watching Phil basically dictate, what the resolution should be, was not a pretty sight at all. Finally this hand should also serve as a reminder to anyone playing live poker to never muck or show their cards, before they are completely sure, the hand is over, and in the case of mucking, that they have lost it. Its always ok to delay action for a few seconds to get confirmation, whats going on, especially when you are playing for big money like here. In this case Slime did not even have to show his cards, if Phil had actually folded, so there was literally no reason for Slime to flip them over. [/QUOTE]

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