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That Phil Helmuth Angle Shoot
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[QUOTE="DS3, post: 6359801, member: 407846"] Yup. I listened to Matt Berkey's take on it where he deliberately played devil's advocate for one side of the argument and said in private games these kind of stunts go down all the time. I'm sure they do. However, it just felt like a practised move to me...I'll push my cards to the middle of the table without declaring 'I fold'. Then two other pros Dwan and Keating got involved (seriously, what the actual hell) in the whole lets goof around flip the cards and Hellmuth just laughed at the antics. 'Slime' obviously thought that Hellmuth had mucked his hand (as did David Tuckman who was commenting) he turned his cards over and 'hey presto!' Hellmuth hadn't folded. Berkey of course disagreed with Hellmuth charging 'Slime' to let him out of the hand but that is where Berkey's logic fell apart. He was arguing Helmuth had not exactly played by the rules but then 'Slime' revealed his hand so therefore he was not protecting his hand. Okay so that would mean the pro can mess with the rules but the amateur (who thought Hellmuth had mucked) still needed to 'protect' his hand and ask for a declaration? No, that makes no sense in the context. And of course as so many have pointed out, if 'Slime' had turned over AK, Hellmuth would of course congratulated himself for folding. Happy to watch the EPT today to get away from all the dubious behavior that's emerged of late. [/QUOTE]
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