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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6479607, member: 397965"] I am sure, you can find lots of hands, where Garrett and the other pros from the stream have lost to recreational players, including hands where someone made a bad call against them, when they were bluffing. So this is not about Garrett thinking, that if a bad player win, they must be cheating. Bad players win hands all the time, and all pros know that. In fact if someone is a bad loser and handle himself poorly, its not Garrett but Phil Helmuth. The whole controversy happened, because this call is so crazy, even for a recreational player, that the idea of faul play is fairly obvious, especially when it happen on a stream. If you think, this call is even remotely normal, then please point us to other recorded hands, where someone else did something similar. I am pretty confident, you wont be able to find any ;) [/QUOTE]