The PoolBoy
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Charade You Are
you can call me Frost
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Ya-that was their goal
What light did they shine on any site other than FTP? --and that was just unintended fallout.I won't politard up this thread but feel free to do some research on their over-reaching, political moves against businesses and states not to mention their coverup of selling guns to drug cartels.
dmorris68
Legend
Loyaler
Okay, I'm no lover of the DOJ, but let's not cloud the issues with misinformation.
While I'd be the first to agree the "Fast and Furious" operation was entirely ill-conceived and poorly executed, the DOJ wasn't selling guns to drug cartels. They were staking out straw purchases by cartel representatives and allowing them to transport the weapons over the border. That's completely different than selling them directly.
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sharkraizer
Rising Star
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I think they need to burn these sites good and hard, these sites from other countries will tell you straight up they do not have to abide by US laws and will take no responsibility for your funds. Will not play again til US based poker sites are up and going
Charade You Are
you can call me Frost
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My statement was: the coverup of selling guns to gun cartels.
They gave the gun shops permission to sell guns to known gun runners knowing that the guns were going to drug cartels then lost track of the guns.
I don't see how that's "completely different".
Straw Buyers: Gun runners who purchase weapons legally in the U.S. and sell them to Mexican Cartels through middlemen or occasionally transporting them into mexico themselves for larger payouts, often Straw Buyers are American Citizens
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Ya-that was their goal
While I take your point, they also shone some light on AP/UB - that site just folded a bit more quietly than Full Tilt and nobody was as surprised when it happened.
nevadanick
Back to work ... zzzzz
Silver Level
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Mighty fine of them to come to this conclusion right after they ran off the foreign competition that had a head start and hurt a lot of innocent people in the process.
Don't get me wrong this is really good news but what hypocrites they are.
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Sure, the U.S. gaming operators want legalized online gambling as fast as it will progress, but I would suggest that the ULTIMATE reason the U.S. (or any government today) wants legalized gambling is......... (drum rollllllllllllllllllllll..............)
TAXES, MORE TAX REVENUES ....
In the case of U.S. online gambling, the sites will be required to report all winnings to the government just as casinos must do now. It will make it mandatory for operators to cooperate fully with the U.S. taxing structure from ALL agencies at all levels, state and federal.
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Mighty fine of them to come to this conclusion right after they ran off the foreign competition that had a head start and hurt a lot of innocent people in the process.
Don't get me wrong this is really good news but what hypocrites they are.
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This times 1 million. Welcome to the USA: a government of the people, by the people and purely for corporate profits... ::facepalm::
Sure, the U.S. gaming operators want legalized online gambling as fast as it will progress, but I would suggest that the ULTIMATE reason the U.S. (or any government today) wants legalized gambling is......... (drum rollllllllllllllllllllll..............)
TAXES, MORE TAX REVENUES ....
In the case of U.S. online gambling, the sites will be required to report all winnings to the government just as casinos must do now. It will make it mandatory for operators to cooperate fully with the U.S. taxing structure from ALL agencies at all levels, state and federal.
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alaskabill
Legend
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Yeah because everyone knows that it has to be based in the US to be legit. Do you believe all of the propaganda? You probably think there were WMDs in Iraq as well.The government applied an outdated law incorrectly (by their own admission now) along with the wildly vague UGIEA to attack businesses that were providing services to a willing customer base. Now that they have eliminated the foreign competition they will be nice enough to allow us to do something that was never illegal to begin with.
People with your mentality are why this country is becoming a bankrupt laughingstock.
Freedom includes the freedom to be a dumbass I suppose.
Oh, sorry we are supposed to be friendly around here. Welcome to CC
PaulThePokerCat
Rising Star
Silver Level
Didn't they bring to light the methods the sights used to make payouts? Aren't two guys about to go on trial (Sun Bank) in about a month. Just to name one example.Ya-that was their goal
I won't politard up this thread but feel free to do some research on their over-reaching, political moves against businesses and states not to mention their coverup of selling guns to drug cartels.
dj11
Legend
Loyaler
Sorry, guilt by collusion.
eberetta1
Legend
Loyaler
Still DOJ shy, not leaving any more funds than minimal to keep my addiction going.
Nothing like the government to determine who stays in business and who shuts down. Same nonsense as twisting switzerland's arm to turn over names of overseas account holders. Think any Senator's names will be on that list?
Nothing like the government to determine who stays in business and who shuts down. Same nonsense as twisting switzerland's arm to turn over names of overseas account holders. Think any Senator's names will be on that list?
JOEBOB69
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Please link me to these idiots
calicard
Visionary
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California Looks to legalize internet poker
Reporting from Sacramento—
When state lawmakers convene again Jan. 4, their plates will be filled with leftovers.
Their agenda is expected to be dominated by issues that have been unresolved in the last few years: state budget problems, pension reform, a new water supply system and legalizing poker on the Internet.
But lawmakers face a huge distraction: The 2012 elections will be the first since their districts were redrawn to make them more competitive. Many officeholders face an uncertain political future.
The backdrop for those anxieties is the state's persistently grim financial situation. The deficit is expected to be nearly $13 billion for the new fiscal year that starts July 1.
"That is the big issue of the year, how we continue to grapple with the economic crisis," said Assembly Speaker John A. Pérez (D-Los Angeles).
So officials are revisiting earlier ideas for raising money — besides increasing taxes, which Gov. Jerry Brown hopes voters will do on the November ballot.
One revenue-spinner could be Internet gambling. Lawmakers held hearings in 2011 on a proposal that the state sanction certain websites for poker and other gambling, with a cut of the action going to the treasury. The matter was postponed until this year amid opposition from some Indian tribes that see such games as competition for their brick-and-mortar casinos.
Now, Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) has brought the two sides together in hopes of forging a compromise that lawmakers will pass, according to Mark Hedlund, a spokesman for the leader. Steinberg wants to regulate cyber-gambling "while providing revenue — hopefully hundreds of millions of dollars — to help us reinvest in public schools, higher education and public safety," Hedlund said.
Reporting from Sacramento—
When state lawmakers convene again Jan. 4, their plates will be filled with leftovers.
Their agenda is expected to be dominated by issues that have been unresolved in the last few years: state budget problems, pension reform, a new water supply system and legalizing poker on the Internet.
But lawmakers face a huge distraction: The 2012 elections will be the first since their districts were redrawn to make them more competitive. Many officeholders face an uncertain political future.
The backdrop for those anxieties is the state's persistently grim financial situation. The deficit is expected to be nearly $13 billion for the new fiscal year that starts July 1.
"That is the big issue of the year, how we continue to grapple with the economic crisis," said Assembly Speaker John A. Pérez (D-Los Angeles).
So officials are revisiting earlier ideas for raising money — besides increasing taxes, which Gov. Jerry Brown hopes voters will do on the November ballot.
One revenue-spinner could be Internet gambling. Lawmakers held hearings in 2011 on a proposal that the state sanction certain websites for poker and other gambling, with a cut of the action going to the treasury. The matter was postponed until this year amid opposition from some Indian tribes that see such games as competition for their brick-and-mortar casinos.
Now, Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) has brought the two sides together in hopes of forging a compromise that lawmakers will pass, according to Mark Hedlund, a spokesman for the leader. Steinberg wants to regulate cyber-gambling "while providing revenue — hopefully hundreds of millions of dollars — to help us reinvest in public schools, higher education and public safety," Hedlund said.
calicard
Visionary
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calicard
Visionary
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That one is just for California but I believe other states are looking at the same options due to the fact that they need money to blow on useless programs.
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hawtshawt420
Rock Star
Silver Level
I'd hardly call education and public safety useless programs but ok. I'm Texas so I'll google some Texas stuff since I assume you wouldn't keep up with it. Do you happen to know anything about the national climate? Since Texas, like California, is such a big state I'd be fine with a State policy and just feel bad for less populated states. But I would hope for at least a national, if not international option.
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hawtshawt420
Rock Star
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Found this link about the individual climate of each state. Seems like most of the posts here are about California and I just can't believe that 99% of US posters are from California. Anyways, I read the Texas and they seemed pretty positive about it. To check if it was totally "cup half full" I just guessed a state which may not support. I picked Conn. (no offense if that is you) and their page wasn't as positive. Just thought players outside of CA might also be having a hard time finding anything that pertains to them.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/us-poker-sites-usa-states/texas-tx-online-poker.php
It's set at texas since that's what I read. and sorry if it's been posted before. I know flopturnriver is a popular place for poker news so sorry if it's old news to you.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/us-poker-sites-usa-states/texas-tx-online-poker.php
It's set at texas since that's what I read. and sorry if it's been posted before. I know flopturnriver is a popular place for poker news so sorry if it's old news to you.
Charade You Are
you can call me Frost
Silver Level
And why do you think they had to do that? If it wasn't for the UIGEA, none of that crap would have been necessary. We were all happy with neteller until the government forced them to stop serving US poker players. Neteller, Citadel Commerce, Central Coin and Nexum Financial's (FTP's "Instant eCheck" provider) all stopped allowing U.S. players to conduct transactions with Internet gambling companies.
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