Too HUD or not too HUD this is the question?

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Some online players claim they are indispensable others only play on sites that do not allow them. What's your thoughts and experiences?
 
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I've been using the hud for a short time, I think it's very important to have the hud, especially for those who play many tables at the same time, and those who use the hud have a huge advantage over those who don't because they can't keep analyzing all the hands all the time
 
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I personaly like to play with a HUD because I can see the statistics of the opponents I have already faced. I mean VPIP, continuation bet and so on... And I think it can help.
But I also can play without HUD.
 
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I never used accesorys but i think is a advantage vs people who doesnt use .
 
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Currently I am playing only battle royal at GG poker, they provide a HUD on each tournament which does not really help, but they also show the stats for Making final 15 and FT/ITM in percentage and also the total amount of tournaments played.

I use this information to put up labels on all players with a decent amount of tournaments played. It helps me to distinguish aggressive and tight players quite well, especially in the beginning of a tournament.

After going back to germany in 2024 I will also consider a HUD for PS and other sites (especially if I start to play cash game again)
 
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HUD helps a lot when playing multiple tables at the same time
 
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I do not use such software, because I simply do not see a need for it. I try to learn and develop my skills just by playing poker. Maybe this is not an ideal approach, but whatever it is, I think that the main thing is that the game brings me pleasure and not a headache :)
 
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In my point of view the huds are very good because we have more information about our opponents, more certainly with the software we can study many essential things.
With sites that are not allowed huds I think it's very cool too the game is a little fairer between quotes, but that's a matter of each one, there are great players who don't use huds and are very profitable even in highstacks.
 
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I do prefer not using a HUD but i do use the software to track my game. The issue with a HUD is it really takes a lot of hands to get a true picture of a player. To many times i have heard people make comments about a player but only based on a few hands and that can be really dangerous. Another problem is people can change over time. Today you play 200 hands, and they have a vip of 35%. You have them marked as A LAG or worse. 10 months later you meet up and look to punish him but he has been working on his game and now only is raising 12% of hands. You see the problem as you LAG is now a NIT. Using a HUD is OK but you need to be carfull using them as well.
 
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A HUD is a toll that makes up for the times you can't see a live players body language. If you fail to use one you are doing yourself a dis-service
 
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I never considered this point of view but it makes perfect sense!
I do prefer not using a HUD but i do use the software to track my game. The issue with a HUD is it really takes a lot of hands to get a true picture of a player. To many times i have heard people make comments about a player but only based on a few hands and that can be really dangerous. Another problem is people can change over time. Today you play 200 hands, and they have a vip of 35%. You have them marked as A LAG or worse. 10 months later you meet up and look to punish him but he has been working on his game and now only is raising 12% of hands. You see the problem as you LAG is now a NIT. Using a HUD is OK but you need to be carfull using them as well.
 
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If the site allows you to use it, why not use it, but be careful when using it, they are just statistics, a player can change his way of playing over time.
And you need to be aware, how large a sample is needed for certain statistics to be meaningfull. If someone has folded to a flop C-bet 75% of the time, but its 3 times out of 4, then that does not really mean anything other than maybe he missed flop completely 3 times. But with that being said a HUD can certainly give usefull information. So if its allowed, you put yourself at a disadvantage, if you dont use one. Its less important though, if you play in large field MTTs, where you rarely pick up a large sample on anyone. But for cash games and SnGs a HUD is a very usefull tool, if you know how to use it well.
 
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I don't like external HUDs at all but I agree with that particular HUDs that some poker sites have
 
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I do prefer not using a HUD but i do use the software to track my game. The issue with a HUD is it really takes a lot of hands to get a true picture of a player. To many times i have heard people make comments about a player but only based on a few hands and that can be really dangerous. Another problem is people can change over time. Today you play 200 hands, and they have a vip of 35%. You have them marked as A LAG or worse. 10 months later you meet up and look to punish him but he has been working on his game and now only is raising 12% of hands. You see the problem as you LAG is now a NIT. Using a HUD is OK but you need to be carfull using them as well.
You can set up your HUD to only show stats after they become statistically significant. Stats like VPIP become meaningful much faster than stats like fold to 5b etc.

The HUD can also be set up to show the current games stats or lifetime with one click.

The auto rate can show you if the player changes from a LAG to a NIT etc.

The HUD combined with color coding really can make your decisions easier and faster.
 
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Some online players claim they are indispensable others only play on sites that do not allow them. What's your thoughts and experiences?
I'm used to play with Hud, but is not indispensable to me. Although it helps a lot when I'm multitabling more than 5-6 tables
 
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You can set up your HUD to only show stats after they become statistically significant. Stats like VPIP become meaningful much faster than stats like fold to 5b etc.
I have experimented with not having the HUD pop up until after a certain amount of hands like 20, 30, 40 or even 50. For a while I was happy with this, but I went back to letting the HUD show any available information, because there were some hands, where I had clearly missed out on usefull information. One of the issues is, that there is no black and white number, where information suddenly becomes "statistically significant". Instead its a gradual process of variance in numbers going down but never disappearing completely.

So where we might for instance need houndreds of hands to be able to separate a LAG from a TAG, if someone have numbers like VPIP 100 / PFR 0 after 9 hands, that is already very significant and usefull information, which we do not want to miss out on. So for me the best solution is to look at the samle size before anything else and then only look at other stats, if they are meaningfull. And if I am in dought, I will always default towards my standard line rather than making a potentially bad adjustment.
 
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