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Message: [QUOTE="mcbeaker, post: 6629576, member: 1004599"] Okay, for me it was just a few days ago that Pokerstars refunded me money because apparently other players were cheating against me among others. But apart from that, your whole post shows that poker is not as safe as we would like it to be. And it doesn't matter if a few rooms closed or didn't pay out two, five or fifteen years ago. The system we all live in hasn't changed. We're talking about billion-dollar industries in some cases. Insurance companies, banks, real estate, energy giants, automotive industry, sports, media, even states: Everywhere you can find black sheep who take advantage of people. Why should online poker, of all things, be the exception? Scandals are ubiquitous. When it comes to poker, I personally remember PKR and especially Full Tilt. In the end, none of this is surprising. We know us human species gradually. Where so much money is involved, there will always be some who are willing to play dirty. [/QUOTE]