Poker etiquette question

[Pokerbill73.]

I am new here, so I will hope this is the proper place to ask the following question.
If there are 3 players in a hand and one is all in, I am being told that the remaining two players must not do anymore betting, allowing a better chance of taking out the all-in player.
This sounds a little like collusion and why would I want to give the remaining player with chips a chance to out draw me?
Any help with this would be appreciated.

 

[Tero]

I am new here, so I will hope this is the proper place to ask the following question.
If there are 3 players in a hand and one is all in, I am being told that the remaining two players must not do anymore betting, allowing a better chance of taking out the all-in player.
This sounds a little like collusion and why would I want to give the remaining player with chips a chance to out draw me?
Any help with this would be appreciated.

I don't know about live games but nothing like this happens online.
In my view you are free to do what ever you want.
On a more calculated angle one can see the advantage of doing this if there is significant pay jump very near. But a bounty tournament would be a different story.

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[renisundernet]

Yes, it is advisable to let the cards play out without bets or standard, but whenever you turn or river something interesting you can gain more by betting a little more on top, or check if they are interested to do so.

 

[dannystanks]

Yeah this is a weird thing that happens in live games a lot, one player all in and 2 or more players still in the hand. It’s sort of an unwritten rule in a tournament to check it down between the remaining players (which is collusion in my opinion) the reason being two or more players have a better chance of knocking that player out that’s all in. But if you know you have the winning hand like the nuts then yeah try to get some value out of it with the remaining players. I tend to check it down. I’ve seen players flip out on players betting into a dry side pot which totally makes me laugh, you paid the entry fee you can play how you want in my opinion.

 

[Colbefc]

It depends, if you have a very good hand then you might not bet but if you have a medium hand
you might bet big to drive the other player out and leave you evens to win against the allin.

It is certainly not poker etiquette not to bet or not in the online games I play.

 

[Like2Play2]

Yes, on final table, I think it's better to check it down so that everyone can have a chance to eliminate a player and benefit from a better pay-out for everyone,
(I only play online poker)

 

[najisami]

I am being told that the remaining two players must not do anymore betting

That's not correct according to my knowledge.
Yes you don't do any betting to have better chance to eliminate the all-in player if you have nothing. But if you have a good hand that can potentially knock him out, of course you bet.
It's just not right and even embarrassing to push the other player out and end up losing to the all-in one .

 

[hilary antonik filho]

I don't really follow this etiquette of not betting, I also don't bet in individual games, but when playing as a team, I follow the guidance of the captain and the team.

 

[GIRAUG73]

Its not a written rule, but I have seen that in live tournaments.
Its always good to get rid of a player especially if you are ITM and the pay jump is important.

But, if you have the Nuts you have to get the most profit of it. the problem is betting over the other players and dont have a winning hand, you not only didnt eliminate a player, but give him/her a lot of chips

 

[Noodeloo]

I think your missing the important factor of stack sizes, in a 3 way pot where 1 player is all in is still contested by the other players and with their remaining chips , usually a larger stack will apply pressure at some point in the hand to deny equity to the shorter stack although as you mentioned sometimes it might be advantageous for both players to check it down to force an ellimination and payjump but its never guarenteed as all players are dealt 2 cards! In my experience you want to avoid these situations if possible and rejam your whole stack pre or have a clear plan against the other player in the hand especially in high equity spots like FTs and near bubbles.

 

[mattiebumpo]

It is unspoken collusion, but it is normal, especially in live games. It is usually in the best interest of the other players to knock someone out.

 

[ScoobyEdu]

I believe that any verbal information that could interfere with the normal flow of the hand and that this information influences the players' play is a type of collusion.

Sometimes it could be to help a friend or something like that, or to complicate the play...
But unfortunately, this is something quite complex to analyze in a live tournament, especially if the players are "loyal customers" of the club... I face some of these situations at the club where I play here in Rio de Janeiro, brazil.