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Message: [QUOTE="Andyreas, post: 6942686, member: 491394"] Hi Carlos, No, my answer was not meant as a joke but not sure if I could bring my point across or if it's a translation issue. What I meant is: For me the worst players are those who play close to every hand by limping, even such worse as 72o just because they [I]could[/I] hit two pair (or better) on the flop. I mean we all have been there: We correctly folded our T5o from UTG and the flop comes TT5. Ofc we'd have hit a boat but most likely the other players in the hand wouldn't have connected at all and we would barely get any value from the hand. What you explained is the play after flop which of course is very important to master but I was hinting more towards the cards to fold preflop and players who rarely fold anything but, in the opposite, limp every two cards in their hands from any position. [/QUOTE]