Reply to thread

Message: [QUOTE="turnupthebb, post: 6897034, member: 1030136"] Preflop could be the most important thing to learn because if you are for example calling 3bets with T6s then you will most likely be bleeding money even if you are a good postflop player and hand reader. There are lots of preflop open raise charts, that's easy to find and not a problem. But what is more challenging is finding complete preflop ranges because you also need to know what to do against an open raise from every position. What to do against a 3bet, 4bet and 5bet. What do do if you get squeezed when you PFR or when you flat a PFR. When to squeeze, when to cold 4bet. And you should know all these ranges for different stack sizes like 50bb 100bb 200bb. Finding these kind of complete preflop ranges is not easy to find. Some websites sell somewhat complete ranges but usually not entirely complete. Is this what you have done? Did you buy ranges from a website? Or what are you doing otherwise? I guess at micros you can get away with not having these complete ranges. You can have a lot of leaks and still be profitable. But if you want to crush and be prepared for moving up to tougher stakes, then you need complete ranges. So what's your approach? Even if you don't like GTO ranges, you still probably need these kind of ranges for exploitative approach because if you cold call a fish then what do you do if you get squeezed? Or maybe there is a very loose player who limps or opens 70% of all hands in UTG, so you are in HJ and decide to cold call with Q8s because it's good against the fish range. But what about the remaining players left to act? You can get in lots of trouble if you don't have ranges prepared for this situation. Probably just thinking without plan then it's probably going to have to fold to a squeeze. And you would have to fold so many hands to a squeeze when you are playing 50% of all hands in HJ whenever the fish in UTG VPIPs, so you will be exploitable by players left to act. Did you create your own complete preflop ranges? How did you do it? Used PioSolver? I haven't used that tool yet but I hear it can take like weeks or months of work for a powerful computer to create those ranges. It seems difficult to create own ranges because if I for example cold call when I'm in CO, well it's just difficult to plan for every situation and the EV of every situation that comes from that, like maybe button calls as well, or maybe squeezes, or maybe one of blinds squeezes or calls. If they squeeze I need to plan ranges for 4betting and calling and how is EV if villain calls or 5bets etc etc. It just seems incredibly complicated to work out these kind of ranges. Or if you don't have any complete preflop ranges, then how are you doing it? What's your approach? I'm thinking about buying preflop ranges but I want to hear what others thing about this first so I don't make a too quick purchase and then regret it. Maybe there is something I haven't thought of. [/QUOTE]

Verification

Search

Reply to thread

About CardsChat

Our Community

Our Site

Follow us

Language