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Message: [QUOTE="Bill_Hollorian, post: 347688, member: 5756"] Ok you are 2 seats BEHIND the button? That makes you the Big blind. I hope cardschatters are not min raising out of the big blind with A9 suited. But lets say you smoked crack, and don't like money and decided to do this. You are now in a situation where a few senarios can happen on the flop. 1.) A 9 is the highest card on the flop. You have top pair top kicker!, Oh but really all you have is a pair of nines... 2.) An Ace hits, like in the example above, but your kicker is no good! So you hit your top pair, and still put yourself on a drawing hand. Which means you raised feeling that your Ace was probably dominated, thats why crack is required pre flop. 3.) You hit some stupid random nuts flop like AAA, or 999. or AA9, or 99A. B ut alas fish hope to hit such flops. You have a few current problems. 1.) Your out of position. 2.) Your made hand can,t be bet, because it is probably second best to whoever calls you. 3.) If someone min raises out of the big blind, when the AK falls, everyone should fold. So you risked a min raise preflop, got a decent flop and get no action. 4.) Technically your hand is now made...not drawing. But you realize it needs to improve to a nut flsuh to win, cardschatters this is losing poker... do not allow yourself in to these situations. This is for the other guy. 5.) The solution is to fold, or raise. You are the leader pre flop. A continuation raise of 75% of the pot gives you fold equity. It should also get your checks on later streets respected, hopefully you can pull 1 or 2 more cards off for free, chasing your dreams. I could go on forever, Folding pre flop is best. Since you raise, you have falsely given yourself "odds to call" on the flop. Ie. rasie 100 preflop and get 1 caller. whe he bets a dollar you are getting 100-1, you should call because no hand is a 100 to 1 dog in poker ( the crack logic). Raising on the flop gives you an extra way to win, by representing what you had pre flop, AK. If you raise they can fold. If you call they dont have to and they can win. It could also get you the free cards later... Stacks, Your math is right, but there is huge eve being given up everywhere in this hand. Sometimes you can win withou the cards... This is a perfect situation. Raising preflop and then calling post flop is horrible advice. 1.) I would laugh and fold if the flush hit on the turn. I would push you all in if it didnt. Your advice maximises loss and risk, and minimizes your win. I am surprised at your advice here...where am I wrong? Respectfully, Bill [/QUOTE]

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