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Message: [QUOTE="Criminal Bizzy, post: 5389791, member: 409792"] Tipping in the U.S. started during the depression as a way for businesses to stay open and not have to raise the price so they could pay their employees. Because of this it has become accepted as expected behavior. Do I tip myself? Yes, when the situation seems appropriate. However I also think that the practice of tipping has become grossly abused and taken advantage of. For example when you go to a small store they might have a "tip jar", for what? So while I have a strong belief that employers should fairly compensate their employees, I also think that if the cost of a said service needs to be increased, that may be fair in some situations. How does this relate to poker? I think one thing that we need to understand is that a casino is not making as much money from poker when compared to other table games, such as blackjack. There is no house edge or anything like that because we are not playing the house. We are playing other players and the casino is hoping that as players we will explore the casino and spend money on other games that they will make an actual profit from. Poker is popular enough that the casinos recognizes that it is a way to get people in their doors. I think another thing to keep in mind is that if someone does not tip it really doesn't affect the employees wages. Many people who make arguments for or against tipping do not always know that the employer is responsible for making up the difference of an employee who is paid a tipped wage. So for any reason if a tipped employee does not report enough earned wages in a week to equal the minimum wage (base hourly wage for tipped employees is $2.13 in the U.S.), then the employer is obligated to pay the difference to make it the Federal minimum wage of $7.25. I am sure in a casino this is never the case since tipped employees have to cash out the tips and the casino probably keeps track of this forcing them to pay taxes on it all. From what I have read, it sounds as if everyone is in agreement about two things [LIST] [*]The working class that depends on tips should be compensated more and fairly for their work [*]Tipping is a grossly exploited by employers in the U.S. [/LIST] My question is, instead of arguing as a community the pros and cons of tipping a dealer. Can we discuss possible solutions to a practice that is being exploited? What as a poker community have we done to try and correct this? Is there something that we can do as poker players to try and right this wrong? [/QUOTE]

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