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Message: [QUOTE="joshyb20, post: 337054, member: 2823"] What I mean is if there are more than 2 or 3 people in for a flop, chances are they have pretty decent hands, especially if there is a good portion of money in it. 1 may have ak, another aq another k q, if that be the case, then each of them have fewer outs than the other guy who stayed in with even 7 2 off. there is 2 more aces in the deck, there are 2 more queens in the deck, and there are 3 ks, 3 7s, and 3 2s. Therefore yes, the two lowest starting hands do have the best odds of drawing out. I was just trying to point out why 3 good starting hands will often be beaten by a crappy player's crappy hand drawing out. As far as it being "my strategy", I never advocated using this as a "strategy". In fact, it is pretty dumb because if the better hand hits anything you are beat. But there is that extra card in the deck to save you if they don't. That is all I was saying. I hope for your sake you were thinking I was saying that there were more 2s 3s 4s etc. in the deck from the git go. No, but if there are more than a few players in the pot they probably have at least one good card each, thus eliminating a draw card for another player. As for the reference to blackjack: If you pay attention to everyone elses cards, you can learn a lot about your odds to draw a good card for your situation. Say you are sitting on 13. You need an 8 or less. You notice that the other players have used more cards lower than 8 than above. You then know that there are probably more higher cards(9-a) which would bust you, than those which will help you. Depending on what the dealer has showing, you should consider standing put. If the dealer has ace showing, you should probably hit and take a chance, but if the dealer has 5 showing, you should prob take a chance that they will bust with the abundance of high cards. The same applies with poker, except you don't actually get to see their cards. But, based on the quality, or lack thereof, of your opponents, you have a decent idea of how many outs you have left in the deck. Now look at it this way. If everyone folds except you and one other person, chances are there are a lot of face cards left in the deck, especially online where it seems no one ever throws away a face card. So if you need a face card, especially an ace, there are prob 3 left in the deck, unless your opponent has one. Think about it, then say it doesn't make sense. [/QUOTE]

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