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[QUOTE="xdmanx007, post: 349594, member: 889"]
EV and expectation are interchangeable terms so if you see me talk about expectation don't get confused. Now your question is a VERY good one. The math part of poker most directly applies to LIMIT ring games although you should still know the numbers when playing a NL ring game. You can expect to be a profitable limit hold'em player if you play the game very analytically. However it is highly unlikely that you will win an online NL MTT playing strickly by the numbers. The number one reason is in order to win a MTT you have to win some hands where your preflop edge is minimal or even slighty negative these hands are most commonly called races, and make no mistake you HAVE to win some to do well in tournaments especially online because every online tournament would be considered an extreme turbo structure in live play, so you have to have some gambler in you to be a good tourney player. NOW you say you can justify ANY call using the EV and ODDS, you misunderstand the concepts if you really feel that way, these values are used to justify or NOT justify your next move mathmatically. In NL MTT's you only NEED to get the numbers close whereas in in LIMIT ring games a percentage point or even a single bet can turn a hand from a winner to a loser this is not necessarily the case in NL tournies. well gotta run 4 a bit but will gladly chime back in when I get back cause very easily could be a GREAT thread!
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