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Message: [QUOTE="nateofdeath, post: 338362, member: 6326"] i saw a hand a few weeks ago during a sit&go at pokerstars that got me thinking about the all in bluff. i'd like to tell you about the hand, and my thoughts on it, and see what you all think. okay, it was early on, everyone still hovering around 1500, blinds i believe around 15/30. there are two main players in this hand, player A & player B. player A comes in first and raises the pot to about 120 or 150. everyone foldes to player B, who rather quickly reraises all in. the rest of the table folds to player A, who calls the all in bet. So when we see their cards, player A (who made the first raise) has pocket queens, and player B (who reraised all in) has 10-6 of clubs. needless to say, player A went on to win the hand, and i was left sitting there, pondering the achilles heel of the agressive player, the all in bluff. now i know what you're thinking, player B decided to put player A to a decision. he did not know the stregnth of his opponent's hand, and decided to take a stab at it. this is a fundimental concept in poker that i think most of us understand. my problem with this logic, especially in this case, is that he left himself no outs. no one would call his all in bet unless they had him beat. so what should he have done then? fold? and risk player A not having a premium hand and stealing the blinds? call? with nothing? and inevitably losing? a total rookie play. no, if player B put player A on a bluff, or even a marginal hand, he was right to reraise. that will work. believe me, but in my opinion his best play would have been to raise it up to somewhere between 400 and 600. a reraise of this size would have made it equally difficult for player A to have called, had he been on a bluff, and with the pocked queens that player A actually had, he would have been very likely to have simply moved all in with them and taken his chances, allowing player B to fold, and live to fight another day. even a call by player A in this situation would allow player B to stab at the pot again post flop, which possibly could work if an ace or king shows up on the board. okay, that's about it. i think i discussed that hand pretty thourally, but if anyone has any thoughts, i'd love to hear them. please forgive any spelling errors. -n [/QUOTE]

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