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Message: [QUOTE="Four Dogs, post: 403229, member: 2668"] Sorry Twizzy, for a minute there I thought you had aquired some form of reason. The poor play I'm refering to is nilorrbs rediculous bluff attempt and Chucks unwillingness to consider the possibility that he was up against 2 pair or better. Like that never happens. By Chucks own admission he had only seen a few hands from this guy and described him as loose and passive. Well, I don't know how good a read you can get on anyone in 3 or 4 hands, but either way, this was NOT passive betting. Calling that $40 bet on the turn was reckless and unnecessary for a good player. There's no shame in getting bluffed out of a pot. Doesn't mean you believed it, it just means your not going to risk that much on TPTK without a very good read on your opponent. As Bill Hallorian said, "TPTK gives implied odds, it doesn't get them". [/QUOTE]