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Message: [QUOTE="ObbleeXY, post: 6277349, member: 437841"] So you started this hand quite deep in the tourney with circa 100 blinds amiright? So the error as I see it is waaaay back in calling the check-raise to 22 Bigs. At that point, he has minimum two pair. Your top pair/top kicker doesn't really cut it. Generally, I say to people who get caught out by a set "too bad, sets are so hidden, forget about it"...but in this case, you have to ask yourself, "why does a person check-raise to 22 Bigs into a pot you've already three-bet and C-bet into?" There are only two answers here. Either: 1) They are a maniac; or 2) They have two-pair or better, but most likely they've hit a set (or straight or flush, if the board allows it). So yeah -- I think you should have found a fold...just not when you think you should have found it. You should never have got to the river on this hand. Of course, all this is ignoring so much more game detail. But in the absence I think this is fair. The other thing you really have to consider with this specific hand at this specific point in your tourney... You were 100 Bigs deep! That is a STACK. If you weren't at the beginning of the game, that is probably a BIG STACK. Your job is to look after that big stack. Sure you want to add to it...but you only want to be putting LOADS of chips into the pot when you are "Nutty". Top pair, top kicker is worth c-betting sure. But top pair is not worth staking your entire tournament on, in most circumstances...or at least not with this one. You need to be getting value on good hands and getting PAID with monsters. You've tried to get PAID with a good hand. Another thing...beware of two pair. (I coined the phrase: PokerStars...where two-pair comes to die! Feel free to use it!) Think about all the most recent times you have hit two pair (ignoring times you've been defending the blinds with crap and hit). What do those hands have in common? I'll be they were connectors! The fact is, we tend to play connectors and suited connectors more often than large gapped hands. As a result when your connectors hit (pre-river), there is *at least* a straight draw on the table. Since your connectors are also often suited (because hey, we all like to play suited connectors), your two pair also has a higher chance of being against a flush draw board. Further, in early tourneys, folks are much more likely to play low pairs (and suited/connectors) from earlier positions than in late game. Set miners try to get in cheap, but if its early or they've got a decent stack they can open up more/open earlier, because the payoff is sooooooo good. Note: Late game set mining from early position is a mugs game. (because if you manage to hit, you often cannot get properly paid, same often goes for chasing straights and flushes late game). So you see...there are more and more reasons to be willing to lay down top pair or top two pair under certain circumstances. So yeah -- find those folds now and again and you'll find yourself getting further into the money. Cheers, JT PS More humble me will admit to going out of league an hour ago check-shoving two pair and getting beaten by the flush coming in for the villain. Good luck on the felt! [/QUOTE]

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