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Message: [QUOTE="dbitel, post: 470906, member: 15503"] Dorkus, What does "taking the pot down now" actually mean? I mean, thinking about it logically, is this really a good reason for betting? If he has a better hand than us, sure....its a great reason to bet. if he has a worse hand than us (and we know this), is betting to take down the pot ever really the best move? You said you think we most likely have the best hand, so the best is fro value. But these 2 points don't follow from each other. The bet can only be for value is a worse hand can call us. eg. lets say he has 55, we're obv ahead, but whats best, checking or betting? IMO, the best thing to do is check, b/c its much more likely he bets with that hand than he calls a bet. What if he has 78dd, quite clearly checking is best. So in pure terms of value, whats the only hand where betting MIGHT be better than checking? well I guess A6 or any other weaker ace. but is it really better than checking? If we bet flop, how many streets of value do you think we get from a weaker ace? if we check flop, how many streets of value (through him betting or us betting) do you think we get? So the flop bet cant really be for value. And its certainly not for fold equity, as I cant see a better hand folding. And like you point out...its not like our hand needs protecting. So ask yourself this: are you betting the flop because its what you've always done/read, because it makes the hand easy to play, or are you truely doing it because you think its the most +EV way of playing the hand? (I think that if you are honest with yourself, you will realise its becaise of teh 1st two reasons, and not because you think its teh most +EV way of playing the hand) [/QUOTE]

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