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Message: [QUOTE="myxiplx, post: 452797, member: 13927"] Heh, yeah I don't normally play with J9 offsuit, and I normally do exactly what juiceeQ suggests and wait for a monster before taking them for every penny they have :D. However I'd had a dry run of cards so my table image was tight, and I had confident reads of the two players in the hand. I felt it was time to make a move / bluff & try to outplay them. (If I'm honest I was also a bit bored - but I was conciously aware of that and I *hope* I could have laid this down if it hadn't worked out). My pot size bet on the turn is what worries me, it felt like the right move at the time - Barry would jump on any weakness so I didn't want to check or bet any smaller, but there's a real danger that I'm beaten here. In a sense I'm gambling that he doesn't have a Q in his hand and it's a semi-bluff. I've still got the long shot at the straight if he calls, but I really wanted him to fold here. fmo01, the reason for the raise preflop wasn't to push anyone out. I wanted callers, but I wanted them to think I had a strong hand (a little bit of misdirection on my part). The same goes for the small bet on the flop, I didn't want to make it obvious I had a J, I was trying to represent an overpair here, Q's, K's or A's - consistent with my earlier raise. I'd also noticed that Barry has more respect for a considered 1/2 pot bet than any bet over that, he'll nearly always call pot size bets (as with many aggressive players he doesn't like to feel someone's trying to push him out of the pot). Similarly I don't put him on JJ or above. Every time he had a hand like that he raised $2 preflop. He mixes it up in terms of the range of hands he plays, but the values of the bets look pretty consistent. He was also calling very fast here - I think he would have taken his time & called 'reluctantly' if he had a monster hand. And for those of you wanting to know what he had: myxiplx shows [ 9d, Js ] a straight Eight to Queen. BARRYF62 doesn't show [ Kc, Qh ] a pair of Queens. The time at which hand ended:Nov 11 2006 04:09 ET myxiplx wins $0.65 from side pot #1 with a straight, Eight to Queen. myxiplx wins $88.95 from the main pot with a straight, Eight to Queen. Game #5429329240 starts. Hence my concern about my flop bet. I don't know if I'm being results oriented doubting that, or whether I really just made a horrible play here & got lucky. More opinions please :D Myx [/QUOTE]

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