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Message: [QUOTE="Dorkus Malorkus, post: 461438, member: 6020"] Wow - paired board = instant villain brain fart? The turn push is pretty hilarious as he's beating nothing but a bluff after playing preflop and flop so passively when he's ahead of most of your range. The turn K completing the flush has to terrify him into check-folding or bet-folding though (one of the few occasions I actually quite like the idea of a donk bet). 4D, I don't really get yer post. You simply cannot put villain squarely on one hand in this situation. AcQc plays this hand exactly the same imo, but we also have to factor in the fact that when a board is paired, villain does not play perfect or even near-perfect poker. There is always at least Harrington's 10% chance that a big bet is a bluff, and with history we can double that here. We will see AK here too. Has TB really 'shown strength'? Different people read situations in different ways. Leading with a pot sized bet on the flop will be interpreted by some as a huge hand trying for a huge payoff, and by others as a blatant steal attempt. Villain's history with overplaying and/or bluffing hands into paired boards would lead us to believe that in this case there is a significant chance that villain does not believe we are as strong as we actually are, let alone having trip Jacks. Villain could have KK and have slowplayed preflop and could have KJ and feel that we are pot committed and are calling a push with a sole high club or something like AK/KQ (obviously we're calling with a J). He might also have a mid-high pocket pair that, like many players, he just can't get away from and ends up really horribly overplaying, as actually happened. Heck, he might be running a crazy bluff with pocket 2s or 84 suited. Saying 'Villain has to have AJ' and advocating folding here is really seeing monsters under the bed. 'Nothing else makes sense'? Well, I suppose not much else would make sense in a world where nobody ever bluffed and everybody played textbook poker, but villain has already shown he is more prone to bluffing and/or overplaying hands on paired boards. [/QUOTE]

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