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Message: [QUOTE="Dorkus Malorkus, post: 349467, member: 6020"] It's good that you're actually thinking and able to 'justify' your play, so many people just hit the raise/call/fold buttons without thinking, but your thinking here is just wrong. You prefer being in early position? Why do you prefer having to act first with no information on your opponents? Get Pokertracker and look at your stats by position and I practically guarantee you'll see you're losing chips in early position with that attitude. You have absolutely no reason to "make a move" here. You have a near 100bb stack, and are comfortably placed. Again, if you're in late position and it's folded around then making a move here is reasonable as you could get better hands to fold and take the pot there and then, if you're called and go to a flop you're likely to be heads up and thus more confident if you hit top pair weak kicker on the flop, or if you're reraised it's an easy fold. But you're flat calling (I'm also interested how flat calling is "making a move", but I'll let that pass) with a crap hand with SIX people acting after you. These two things make the likelihood that you're going to get called by a hand that has you dominated one way or another very likely. Q8o is not a good hand. It's not even a decent hand. If you hit a Q, your kicker is crap. If you hit an 8, there will probably be an overcard to your pair. If you hit the one straight it can make, the straight is obvious and not the nuts (JT9). If you're at an incredibly tight table and looking to take the pot, then raise preflop. You say you'd hardly raised all tourney, well use the extra respect people will give to your raises to your advantage, though personally I'd wait until the blinds are bigger before doing this. However by raising you gain information on your opponents hands, and if someone calls your raise and the flop comes out rags, then it's far easier to steal the pot as you can put the callers on AQ etc. By flat calling you're (a) setting yourself up for trouble if you try and steal later on, as you have no information to base your steal on, and (b) encouraging K8/A8/QJ/etc to come along for the ride, which is bad for your hand if you do hit a flop. That said, no matter how silly your play was, that m300 guy's was about 500 times worse, whatever he had. :p [/QUOTE]

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