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Message: [QUOTE="Casey55, post: 6124099, member: 418310"] villains limping range can vary vastly. I think when someone limps they are limping with a hand they consider playable but not strong enough to raise its really player dependent on what they perceive as a hand that is playable but I think his range on the flop can have a few 6's . A6s'76s,65s,66 I mean maybe even A6o if he's bad enough.. limping out of EP I don't think is the sign of a great player. I like your flop and turn play. On the river I think the 7 does hit villains range a fair bit. Obviously it gives him a set of 77 which in theory should end up here on the river from MDF standpoint. 76s fills up, 88 is boat and T9s for a straight. I don't know if we should barrel river in this spot or not since the 7 does help a chunk of villains range and when it comes to value betting river what are we hoping to get value from? I suppose you could get value from QJs,QTs,Q9s the ones that had a backdoor flush on the flop could have called and turned a Q, thats 9 combos. Alot of villains heart draws missed, maybe he has like A8s or A7s or 98s but I don't think those are calling a good sized bet. and the rest of villains range is beating us 77 is 3 combos T9s is 4 combos, I guess we can value if we don't expect villain to slow play much at all but if he does than we have all the other boats and stuff to worry about. Hero bets 200 into 300 so the pot is 500 and villain shoves 670? that means total pot is 1170. we have to call 320. nearly 4:1 on a call. Our MDF here would be 42%. Our range on the river I think would be AA,KK,QQ,,AQ. ( Im not sure if you would bet KQs for 3-streets) if this is our value range we have 27 combos. We would need to defend 11 combos. If we fold out all of our AQ we are left with 15 combos.. we need to fold 4 more...between AA,KK and QQ... meaning we would need to fold half of our KK to meet MDF. I guess we would fold the ones that have a heart because it makes it more likely villain would have broken flush? Honesty I think we just fold here, Idk if it makes sense for villain to bluff shove because we are getting great odds to call and the river does make sense on improving a bunch of his hands. seems like a super slow-play or something. I'm really not sure what I would do this is a tricky one I think it can go either way but your pot odds are almost too good to fold if the guy is ever just shoving cause he missed hearts.. he limped EP. [/QUOTE]

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