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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 5898093, member: 305911"] With a hand like A5 suited you are 4 betting to get folds and not to play post flop. When you get called you are now in a huge pot out of position with a hand that you could hit top pair and not know where you stand. I personally would not 4 bet there but if you are going to I think you need to go bigger as we want folds here. You also have to factor in the 3 bet frequency of the the CO which I did not see (this hand was hard to follow, try to use the replayer if possible). If they are not 3 betting much then they will not fold much and you will be 4 betting into a hand that is stronger than yours and you will be out of position. Luckily the 3 bettor folds. On the flop I like making a bet here as I want to continue to add to the story that I am extremely strong here. I also dont want to just give a free card to two hearts that villain could have. I still think my hand is worse here even against the initial raiser so I will mostly likely need to win this hand by not going to showdown but making the villain fold somewhere along the line. You said in your writing that the A of hearts was a good turn card and I disagree. I think the ace is not good for us. It gives us a pair but we could be going against Ax here as well that has a better kicker and also hearts got there. As played I think you should be betting here to stay in control of the pot however I am not liking things if we are raised and my bet also folds out the KK and QQ hands which I dont love either but at this point I just want to win this hand and get out of this. Maybe that is wrong but that is just how I think of things and here we are in this big pot with a hand we cant gauge well against our opponents hands. I am folding to a raise here if it should happen. The river is another instance where you say it is a great card for us and I disagree. It is a good card because now we beat Ax but any hand with a heart here beats us and I dont see villain having too many if any hands with a 7 or less in them so if they have a heart they arent folding here. You check here which I am ok with but I think non heart hands that are Ax that we now beat will check behind. Any heart will bet that you will have a decision to make. I like betting small here as a blocker bet where I am folding to a raise. I like betting small since Ax that we beat will make a crying call and hands that beat us raise where we can fold but that bet fold line is cheaper than checking and then facing a half pot bet where we have a tough decision to make. [/QUOTE]

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