$5 NLHE Full Ring: What correct move, call or fold ?

[Mcclares]

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 47/11/1

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players

CO: 211 BB
BTN: 119.6 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 275.6 BB
UTG: 106 BB
UTG+1: 40 BB
MP: 58.8 BB
Hero (MP+1): 110.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q:spade: J:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) J:club: Q:club: K:diamond:
Hero bets 5.4 BB, CO calls 5.4 BB

Turn: (20.2 BB, 2 players) 5:spade:
Hero bets 14.6 BB, CO calls 14.6 BB

River: (49.4 BB, 2 players) A:heart:
Hero bets 28.4 BB, CO raises to 187 BB and is all-in,

Thanks for advices

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
A 4BB open is very large. Either size down to 2,5-3BB or fold this hand.

Flop
You flopped two pair, but its bottom two pair on a very connected board, where made straights are already possible, and the better two pair are very likely holdings for him to have. So already at this point you need to think a little about, how you want to proceed with the hand, and its not a "OMG lets get all the money in" kind of spot. That being said betting is still fine.

Turn
Probably fine to bet again but your sizing is a little on the large side.

River
Now there is a 1-liner to a straight and a bunch of better two pair combinations as well. Your hand is only a bluff catcher now, so check and either fold or call depending on reads and his bet size. In general I just fold in spots like this, unless he bet something silly like 10% of the pot.

 

[Aballinamion]

Playing off-suited combos OOP

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 47/11/1

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players

CO: 211 BB
BTN: 119.6 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 275.6 BB
UTG: 106 BB
UTG+1: 40 BB
MP: 58.8 BB
Hero (MP+1): 110.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♠ J♦

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) J♣ Q♣ K♦
Hero bets 5.4 BB, CO calls 5.4 BB

Turn: (20.2 BB, 2 players) 5♠
Hero bets 14.6 BB, CO calls 14.6 BB

River: (49.4 BB, 2 players) A♥
Hero bets 28.4 BB, CO raises to 187 BB and is all-in,

Thanks for advices

Hi there Mcclares, thank you for sharing your hand.

Preflop

Well, I don't like opening QJo a lot from MP at Full Ring tables, even when there are only 8 players left. The reason is that off-suited combos let our range very wide and easier to exploit. Plus, if we got 3-bet here we are stuck in a complicated spot, and when we get called from players in position and hit anything we never know if we are ahead. We are always the first to act and this reduces the chance of us taking the pot by bluffing.

The postflop

The Flop

Out of position I am usually checking more than betting in situations like this. Before betting we gotta ask ourselves what do we expect V to be paying with on a flop like this.
If you c-bet 1/2 pot here and Villain goes all-in are you shipping too? The flop is very drawie and any 9x, Tx, Ax will continue calling, flush draws, etc

The Turn

Okay, the 5s is a brick and we should be charging from 9x, Tx, Ax, the flush draws and whatever Villain is defending IP.

The River

This is not a good card and now that completes part of Villain's range I would go by check and evaluate Villain's decision. If Villain bets too much, easy fold to my two pair.
The problem of this Ace of Hearts on the river is that now any Tx is beating the hell out of our range, hands like AJ, AQ, AK and even A5 got there, we could be already losing for KQ on the flop because Villain called c-bet, so here is a spot where you should do the calculations to see if you believe that Villain will have more combo bluffs or combo values on a River like this.
For experience we know that at the micros players are almost never bluffing on a river like this, so we will never get the proper odds to be calling down our two pair or sets on a river like this. Thus, easy fold.

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa

 

[Mcclares]

Hi there Mcclares, thank you for sharing your hand.

Preflop

Well, I don't like opening QJo a lot from MP at Full Ring tables, even when there are only 8 players left. The reason is that off-suited combos let our range very wide and easier to exploit. Plus, if we got 3-bet here we are stuck in a complicated spot, and when we get called from players in position and hit anything we never know if we are ahead. We are always the first to act and this reduces the chance of us taking the pot by bluffing.

The postflop

The Flop

Out of position I am usually checking more than betting in situations like this. Before betting we gotta ask ourselves what do we expect V to be paying with on a flop like this.
If you c-bet 1/2 pot here and Villain goes all-in are you shipping too? The flop is very drawie and any 9x, Tx, Ax will continue calling, flush draws, etc

The Turn

Okay, the 5s is a brick and we should be charging from 9x, Tx, Ax, the flush draws and whatever Villain is defending IP.

The River

This is not a good card and now that completes part of Villain's range I would go by check and evaluate Villain's decision. If Villain bets too much, easy fold to my two pair.
The problem of this Ace of Hearts on the river is that now any Tx is beating the hell out of our range, hands like AJ, AQ, AK and even A5 got there, we could be already losing for KQ on the flop because Villain called c-bet, so here is a spot where you should do the calculations to see if you believe that Villain will have more combo bluffs or combo values on a River like this.
For experience we know that at the micros players are almost never bluffing on a river like this, so we will never get the proper odds to be calling down our two pair or sets on a river like this. Thus, easy fold.

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa

Thanky very much!

 

[Mcclares]

Preflop
A 4BB open is very large. Either size down to 2,5-3BB or fold this hand.

Flop
You flopped two pair, but its bottom two pair on a very connected board, where made straights are already possible, and the better two pair are very likely holdings for him to have. So already at this point you need to think a little about, how you want to proceed with the hand, and its not a "OMG lets get all the money in" kind of spot. That being said betting is still fine.

Turn
Probably fine to bet again but your sizing is a little on the large side.

River
Now there is a 1-liner to a straight and a bunch of better two pair combinations as well. Your hand is only a bluff catcher now, so check and either fold or call depending on reads and his bet size. In general I just fold in spots like this, unless he bet something silly like 10% of the pot.

Thanks!

 

[1player2]

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 47/11/1

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players

CO: 211 BB
BTN: 119.6 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 275.6 BB
UTG: 106 BB
UTG+1: 40 BB
MP: 58.8 BB
Hero (MP+1): 110.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♠ J♦

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) J♣ Q♣ K♦
Hero bets 5.4 BB, CO calls 5.4 BB

Turn: (20.2 BB, 2 players) 5♠
Hero bets 14.6 BB, CO calls 14.6 BB

River: (49.4 BB, 2 players) A♥
Hero bets 28.4 BB, CO raises to 187 BB and is all-in,

Thanks for advices

Thank you for your post. I would have folded with villian going all in on the river. What are you going to beat in showdown. He could easily have A,10s or J,10s in his range. With that being said I would assume he has the nuts and I would fold %100. Good Luck


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