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Message: [QUOTE="teh_colonel_saigon, post: 5666152, member: 107240"] Thank you all for your replies. I have a few basic questions, and some comments for clarification. [B]1. What is our range here? [/B]It's a "bluff-value" spot, so I have JJ+, AQ+, KQs, AJs. The worse cards in there offer good removal which would aid us in getting the reg to fold to we can play vs the fish. TT-99 can play multiway and I don't want to waste them vs a HJ 4bet. Even JJ I'm unwilling to 3! too much in this spot. Thoughts? [B]2. Sizing flop:[/B]It's a dry board, so perhaps we could stick with the 1/3 sizing flop, which would let us bet our whole range and get calls from V's whole range. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ---[B]Fish's Continuing Range[/B]--- -----The hands that Fish calls pre with are all good looking speculative hands. ----- ----- [B]Estimated Range:[/B] [[ 55-88, 76s - JTs, QJs, KJs, KTs, QTs, maybe some ----- ----- suited aces?]] ----- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - VS this type of a range, he has a lot of draws in this board and some top pairs. I think we can get away with a 1/2 sizing for value, though maybe we could 2/3s it the whole way through. [I]Let's say though the standard line is 1/3 pot vs a reg. Are we really betting 100% of our range for that size here? [/I][B]3. Sizing turn: [/B]This comment if more for Aballinamion... you said you prefer a polarizing size here? like 2/3 to 3/4? (we can jam rivers comfortably with either size) John A mentioned checking the turn... why is that? It seems like a good play, especially if we do it with the 1/3 flop sizing since most of V's range would be there and would have the opportunity to bluff. If we did 1/3 pot sizing on the flop, pot would be 40bb and effective stacks were 120 to start, so with~80 behind we could bet (check-call) a 2/3 pot bet of ~26 which would put us in shoving range for the river. so... [B]4. River:[/B]So there's two ways we got here. We'll assume the 1/3 flop to 2/3 turn sizing so pot will be ~92 with about 76bb effective behind. [B]a. Having check-called turn[/B] Do we donk jam? on what run outs? John mentioned jamming [B]most rivers[/B]... Maybe a 9, 7, 5 or lower... Not too scared of an ace but V might be so I can't see jamming for value there, T may not be too good a card as most of the hands calling the jam would have a T in them... We can even jam on a J if V was floating turn with QJ KJ in the turn check call scenario I'm struggling to see how this is for value overall though. Are we supposed to be bluffing this river often? Like going 3 streets with AK? Or is the turn check to protect our AK here?:confused: [B]b. Having bet turn[/B]: Jam? ITH I checked bc I figured there were a lot of sets + one straight in his range (he could have 88). Most of his weak hands would check behind river. Against a good player this is very clearly exploitable. Maybe if we xc turn we could x-decide river, but if we bet turn then this is a bet...call? It'd be crazy to fold to a raise given remaining stack sizes so we just go with it? --------- [B]TLDR: [/B]:bebored:I'm having trouble understanding y'alls big brained strategies. -How did you arrive at your bet sizing conclusions (vs fish? vs reg?) -What is our range and how should we be playing it? (any bluffs here vs reg?) Thanks again for all the input, you guys are beasts. [/QUOTE]

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