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[QUOTE="c0rnBr34d, post: 5895937, member: 394557"]
I agree with others on the hand.  No need to beat a dead horse in that respect.  I'd review your understanding of implied odds and take into account position and action behind.  If you're closing the action in the BB and have some read in a single raised pot we can discuss implied odds.  For that reason I don't like the first pre flop call, the second call IS closing the action in position with a disguised small suited connector that can make some big hands so it's a closer decision.

Clearly we do not want to call a nearly 3x overbet shove on the flop with 35% equity.  It's a long term losing play and very -EV.  Yet this looks like our dream flop, flush draw and open ended straight draw.  At first glance a combo draw like this usually has more equity and I wonder if this is where the confusion lies.

The most interesting thing about this post and maybe it's late and I'm missing something and I'll feel silly when I read the responses but [B]I'm actually surprised at how the rule of 2 or 4 breaks down in such epic fashion in this spot. [/B] We have 12 clean outs here against Vs exact hand.  3 Aces, 3 threes, 3 fours, 3 non spade sixes.  We would think that 12 outs twice in an all in scenario would give us a better chance at winning the hand if we could see the cards and knew our flush was no good (48% estimate, 45% actual in most cases).  In this case however that assumption is WAY off.  I know we shouldn't be drawing to small pairs in general but someone please remind me why this estimation is so far off in this instance and what other scenarios may be similar.
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