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[QUOTE="DevaCat, post: 5866488, member: 450457"]
Not sure I agree that aggressor will usually cbet this pot.

(1)It's a multiway pot, which tends to make everyone play more vanilla.

(2) I just don't see the value in villain cbetting this board for folds, rather than value betting. If CO has JJ+, AQ+ 3-bet range, then he's value betting AK, AA, KK, JJ. Which of these hands does he fold to a lead out? At NL5, very hard for villains to lay down TPTK+ on the flop, so all of this range calls the donkbet, and we have 69% equity against it. AQ he probably checks behind- this is a draw heavy board, you have four outs to a monster, and you're unlikely to get two folds given the texture. So you're hoping to snap off a cbet from QQ (which is only about 13% of his pre-flop range).

I think there's a lot to be said for donking into him:

(1) You don't fold out much of CO's range that would give us any value at any point.
(2) You don't allow the club flush draws and broadway straight draws to get a free card, which can crush our value and is more important multiway.
(3) You build the pot with the aim of getting AA, AK to be pot-committed before the river. SPR is only 3.3 on the flop, so an 18bb donkbet can get SPR to 1.1 for the turn, even  with only one caller.
(4) If we're lucky, CO calls and then BB feels priced in to continue to draw with two cards left.

Don't think I have a 100% donkbet range here, but I definitely don't think this is an automatic check (as it would be on a KJ4 rainbow heads-up).
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