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[QUOTE="Aballinamion, post: 5667078, member: 289533"]
I didn't read this when I posted: totally forget about charts and tables of ranges.
We must use our instincts to know whether is best to be folding a weak combo or whether it is best to be 4-betting for bluff.

We can be 4-betting QJo or even QTo, where BTN versus SB, however, at the micros, we are almost never doing it. Players overcall, overplay, they tend to jam with TPTK and sometimes with Second Pair and total non-sense bluffs, so we are not facing an soft ground, but a very crazy field, able and capable of doing anything.

Plus, let's consider that we indeed 4-bet QJo what are we expeting? Flops that we see QJx, JJx, QQx, 9TK, and this is going to happen 1% of times? 
So, we are investing 20% of our stack for bluff when Villain 5-bet/Pushes we instantly fold and most of flops are dangerous enough.

If we do hit Top Pair we aren't happy because Villain can have KQ and AQ, if we do hit second pair even worse, if we do hit flops with KTx, K9x, we are investing at least one street of value OTF and many times we are going to jam for bluff OTT or OTR because we are already commited and it doesn't matter anymore if Villain has us beat.

We do invest 20% or more of our stack preflop for a non-profitable situation, versus any types of opponents. If at least your combos of QJ were suited, but going with the off-suited combos to 4-bet pots we are simply going to far for a stake that is build upon limitations.

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa
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