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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6913279, member: 397965"] Hand strength is always relative, and top set is not a monster, when there are 3 cards to a flush and 4 to a straight. Its like having JJ on a Q high board with 3 to a flush, and I dont think, any poker player would call that a monster. And its important, that we change the way, we classify our hand, when the board changes, so that we dont get married to our hand, just because it was strong on an earlier street. In this case Hero had a strong hand preflop, but probably not strong enough to stack off for 55 bigs against someone playing VPIP 46 / PFR 2. If this player had limp-reraised, hero should seriously consider folding, unless it was a min-click or something. On the flop Hero had the second nuts (98 was the nuts) and should be happy to get it in, if the Villain had raised. On the turn Hero still had a value hand, but it had moved more towards thin value. If Hero had bet and gotten raised, it would still be a call, but more like a sigh-call or pot-odds call, where Hero would expect to often be behind but at least have equity with 10 outs to a boat. On the river though Hero only had a bluff catcher. The hand was no longer good enough to bet for value. So even if Hero had kept the initiative on the turn, the river line would still be check and hope, the opponent checks back. And if the opponent bets, regardless who had the initiative on the turn, Hero is strictly bluff catching, if he call. Occationally a player like this might be so bad, he cant read the board, because its 4NL, which is likely the cheapest game in the room. And in that case maybe once in a moon, he bets two pair or a worse set and thinks, its for value. But other than that Villain either has at least a straight, or he is bluffing. And this hand is not a good bluff catcher. When bluff catching we of course need to beat bluffs, but other than this blockers are more important than absolute hand strength. And on this board we really want to have a high diamond, if we are considering bluff catching. So hands like AdTs or AdAs are much better candidates to make a hero call on the river than ThTs. In top of that this is also not an opponent type, we want to do a lot of bluff catching against, unless we have some reads or stats not mentioned in the OP. He is playing a lot of hands but only raising 2% of them preflop, so at least preflop his strategy is not to make people fold. There are some exceptions, but most of the time this also carry over to postflop. Which mean his strategy is basically to try to make a strong hand and then bet it for value. So unless we have postflop stats showing a lot of aggression, like a high donk bet percentage, or a high aggression factor, then we should assume, that when this player bet the late streets (turn and river), then he most likely has exactly, what he is representing. And if we fold our bluff catchers to those bets, we are not getting exploited. On the countrary we are exploiting him for not incorporating bluffs into his strategy at a nearly high enough frequency. [/QUOTE]

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